Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:59 am  

Well, all what has been said is good. BUT, the proof of signing a play maker in his middle 20s has been proved again by Salford a club similar to us ! In that Brodie Croft, @ 25, is the man of Steel, one has to ask, why we cannot, no excuses, they can do it !

Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:34 am  

TrinTrin wrote:

Well, all what has been said is good. BUT, the proof of signing a play maker in his middle 20s has been proved again by Salford a club similar to us ! In that Brodie Croft, @ 25, is the man of Steel, one has to ask, why we cannot, no excuses, they can do it !

Because they signed him with money they didn't have, which is why their team is about to be ripped apart

Have you ever heard of history?

Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:32 pm  

What a silly comment, no where did I say every player, ie a full team you implied, you always need a play maker even if it costs two players wages, at least the team has a rudder & leadership !

Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:40 pm  

Mason Lino imo needs to step up next season. He’s 29 years old before season kicks off and it will be his 3rd year or superleague. He is one of our senior group and plays in a pivotal position.

Overall I think he’s been a reasonably solid find but he needs to lead the team and present us with more try scoring opportunities especially close to the line. I’m all for bringing in a quality halfback who can control a game but Lino needs to step up a gear too.

Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:57 pm  

TrinTrin wrote:

What a silly comment, no where did I say every player, ie a full team you implied, you always need a play maker even if it costs two players wages, at least the team has a rudder & leadership !

You really have no idea how finance works. It's not a case of what we need but what we can afford. You asked why we cannot have a Brodie Croft and I'm telling you it's because we probably can't afford a Brodie Croft and because our BOD don't believe in going into the red then I doubt we will get one. I may be wrong but that is the excuse, we live within our means.

Very sensible comment from me in all honesty.

Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:40 pm  

vastman wrote:

You really have no idea how finance works. It's not a case of what we need but what we can afford. You asked why we cannot have a Brodie Croft and I'm telling you it's because we probably can't afford a Brodie Croft and because our BOD don't believe in going into the red then I doubt we will get one. I may be wrong but that is the excuse, we live within our means.

Very sensible comment from me in all honesty.

You being the fountain of all things financial what have we used the large sum of money saved by releasing 10 players, if not to sign a Brodie Croft type of player if we can find one. I have no confidence they would do so but not because we would go into the red but because they have clearly decided for a reason best known to them to reduce the salary budget.
I look forward to your explanation of how one so financially astute is reverting back to what he did when he took over from his employer 10 seasons ago. It is not much of a legacy is it and don’t revert to insults just try answering it for a change.

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Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:47 pm  

How have we "clearly" decided to reduce the playing budget.
If we haven't spent any of that money yet you have no idea what they are going to do.

Or do you have some insider info?

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Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:51 pm  

The thing is, we don't know how much Brodie Croft cost.

I remember saying at the beginning of the year that Croft was a star and would change Salford. Your reply Vasty was that one man doesn't make a team, but I think he's proved he can make a team a better team.
And that, I'm thinking is what Trin Trin is after.

We can try for an unproven playmaker to develop like we did pretty successfully with Miller but its a risk. Croft was never a risk. He was just behind big names at Melbourne and Brisbane

Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:41 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

You being the fountain of all things financial what have we used the large sum of money saved by releasing 10 players, if not to sign a Brodie Croft type of player if we can find one. I have no confidence they would do so but not because we would go into the red but because they have clearly decided for a reason best known to them to reduce the salary budget.
I look forward to your explanation of how one so financially astute is reverting back to what he did when he took over from his employer 10 seasons ago. It is not much of a legacy is it and don’t revert to insults just try answering it for a change.

Great post

Re: Stand off - playmaker - game controller. : Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:50 pm  

PopTart wrote:

How have we "clearly" decided to reduce the playing budget.
If we haven't spent any of that money yet you have no idea what they are going to do.

Or do you have some insider info?

I think we can agree that Fifita, TJ, Miller, Batchelor and Arona for example will be at the top end of our salary structure. They have indicated that they hope to secure five signings and have decided to wait to see what bargains are available.