Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:30 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote: Since Saints moved into their new stadium they have posted losses every year, totalling over £10 million. In that same period Wigan have lost £5.5 million. Saints https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history Wigan https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

Rogues Gallery wrote: Since Saints moved into their new stadium they have posted losses every year, totalling over £10 million. In that same period Wigan have lost £5.5 million. Saints https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history Wigan https://find-and-update.company-informa ... ng-history Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

[Sadfish]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:51 am  

Jason65 wrote:

Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:43 am  

Sadfish wrote:

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

Totally agree with with the last paragraph.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:09 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

It is good to see a photograph of your traditional kit. I suspect that not many Saints fans know that Red Vee is something more modern.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:14 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

Jason65 wrote:

Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!

I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:54 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sadfish wrote:

Jason65 wrote:

Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!

I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even

See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.

[Sadfish]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:13 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sadfish wrote:

Jason65 wrote:

Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!

I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even

See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.

No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.

In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a succesful team"

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:54 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

Jason65 wrote:

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sadfish wrote:

Jason65 wrote:

Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!

I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even

See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.

No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.

In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a successful team"

I believe what we are trying to say is that we all want the sport of RL to survive and maybe prosper.
We are not soccer.

[Sadfish]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:00 pm  

We aren't Premier League, but many of the lower leagues are similar and clubs almost always run at a loss if not break even, only a hadful of clubs in any UK sport runs at the profit.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:51 pm  

Jason65 wrote:

Sadfish wrote:

Jason65 wrote:

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sadfish wrote:

Jason65 wrote:

Stop hitting them with facts as they cannot cope.

as a shareholder of Saints the debts are not something to be happy about, but they are almost entirely owed to Eamonn McManus and Mike Coleman who both know the debt is either never retrievable or changed to debentures, it doesn't really effect the position of the club as if you add in the assets of the stadium it isn't an issue.

In saying that all SL clubs need to make sure they are running within their means, Saints cannot survive without Wigan and Warrington and vice-versa.

And in the same way most of the money owed by Wigan is to Ian Lenagan and/or his companies. Danson could buy every Superleague club with his pocket money!!

I would love every club to be profitable or at least break even

See you are doing it again bringing facts into it.
I would also every club make a profit as without the teams we have no sport.

No one, outside of top 10 Soccer teams goes into a sport and expects to make a profit, they always hope to break even.

In fact, there is an old saying, "if you are in profit you aren't even really trying to be a successful team"

I believe what we are trying to say is that we all want the sport of RL to survive and maybe prosper.
We are not soccer.

Burnley did.