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Re: Smith for England Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 pm  
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sergeant pepper wrote:
He's not made the squad anyway and neither has Smithies.

Happy for Wigan.


They are both no where near good enough that’s why
Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:18 am  
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CobraCraig wrote:
I believe Harry Smith isn’t in the Wales squad which points to him being in the England squad for the World Cup. I see on social media a lot of other teams fans in uproar and saying he’s only been picked because he plays for Wigan and the Wane link but I think he deserves it, I don’t have many I would have in front of him. Lomax will probably miss it through injury, Welsby better at 1 imo, Hastings has been out for a while after a bad injury, Williams coming off the back of a poor season, Mikey Lewis has the X factor and comes up with some brilliant plays but I believe Smith is the better more rounded player currently imo. Either way if it’s true congratulations and some turnaround after a lot thought he would struggle to establish himself in the Wigan 13,


Thanks to Lammy for coaching him well last season. :thumb:
Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:07 am  
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This adds a bit more context to Lomax and Percival pulling out

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/230 ... world-cup/
This adds a bit more context to Lomax and Percival pulling out

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/230 ... world-cup/
Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:42 am  
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Stu M wrote:
This adds a bit more context to Lomax and Percival pulling out

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/230 ... world-cup/


I’m sorry but that’s bull. If Percival playing puts his career at risk what were St Helens doing getting him to play in the SF and GF. It’s one hell of a coincidence that Lomax’s injury reaches a point just after the GF that he can’t play on with it.

This is one of the main reasons Rugby League as a sport struggles. Most other team sports, certainly ones in the UK are built on the international game. It’s about time some of our clubs started taking it seriously as if they don’t their own existence is at risk.
Stu M wrote:
This adds a bit more context to Lomax and Percival pulling out

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/230 ... world-cup/


I’m sorry but that’s bull. If Percival playing puts his career at risk what were St Helens doing getting him to play in the SF and GF. It’s one hell of a coincidence that Lomax’s injury reaches a point just after the GF that he can’t play on with it.

This is one of the main reasons Rugby League as a sport struggles. Most other team sports, certainly ones in the UK are built on the international game. It’s about time some of our clubs started taking it seriously as if they don’t their own existence is at risk.
Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:00 am  
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Trainman wrote:
I’m sorry but that’s bull. If Percival playing puts his career at risk what were St Helens doing getting him to play in the SF and GF. It’s one hell of a coincidence that Lomax’s injury reaches a point just after the GF that he can’t play on with it.

This is one of the main reasons Rugby League as a sport struggles. Most other team sports, certainly ones in the UK are built on the international game. It’s about time some of our clubs started taking it seriously as if they don’t their own existence is at risk.


Not surprising really
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Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:42 am  
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So essentially the medical advice was they could play without undue risk up to September 24th but any longer and they'd start falling apart.
Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:14 am  
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TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:
They are both no where near good enough that’s why


Smithies was better than Knowles in 2022.

https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/87 ... n-smithies

https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/13/morgan-knowles

More metres, more tackles, less missed tackles and much better disciplined.
TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:
They are both no where near good enough that’s why


Smithies was better than Knowles in 2022.

https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/87 ... n-smithies

https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/13/morgan-knowles

More metres, more tackles, less missed tackles and much better disciplined.
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Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:19 pm  
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Stu M wrote:
This adds a bit more context to Lomax and Percival pulling out

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/230 ... world-cup/


Percival is not international class, Lomax is though. If you look at the players Wane has available he will need to work miracles. To me, it just confirms that SL is a poor competition with a splattering of ‘decent’ players. We need to cut the non-federation quota and introduce a system where SL teams are forced to promote junior players. The quality of English players has got to improve substantially.
Stu M wrote:
This adds a bit more context to Lomax and Percival pulling out

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/230 ... world-cup/


Percival is not international class, Lomax is though. If you look at the players Wane has available he will need to work miracles. To me, it just confirms that SL is a poor competition with a splattering of ‘decent’ players. We need to cut the non-federation quota and introduce a system where SL teams are forced to promote junior players. The quality of English players has got to improve substantially.
Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:02 pm  
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Zig wrote:
Percival is not international class, Lomax is though. If you look at the players Wane has available he will need to work miracles. To me, it just confirms that SL is a poor competition with a splattering of ‘decent’ players. We need to cut the non-federation quota and introduce a system where SL teams are forced to promote junior players. The quality of English players has got to improve substantially.


No, we really don't need to cut the quota.
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Re: Smith for England Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:03 pm  
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sergeant pepper wrote:
No, we really don't need to cut the quota.


We do if we are to succeed at international level.
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