Re: Wasps gone pop : Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:41 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

We've already lost key clubs in a way.

Widnes, Bradford and Halifax are all still functioning, but their glory days are long behind them with no hope of returning.

There's no doubt that RL is also under threat. At domestic level, neither code seems capable of regularly pulling in the sort of crowds they need to pay massive wages etc. But I think it's safe to say that RU went much further than RL when it came to putting big bucks on the table.

The likes of Faz, Jason Robinson, Henry Paul and Sam Burgess would never have gone over if some of the most successful clubs in RL hadn't been easily outbid. The fact there've been very few (if any) high-level defections from Union to League in the last 25 years surely proves it too.

I just hope the IMG deal helps us get our act together in time. There is certainly no time for faffing about.

Interesting to read the RFU saying that maybe it's time for a condensed, 10 team league. Obviously there's a loss of two fixtures per year, but more TV money to go around as well as deeper squads too.

Seems to be the opposite of what IMG are calling for though. Although both are on the same page in regards to promotion/relegation & licences.

Out of interest, does anyone know (Jukes perhaps) how much a RL club makes off their home games? Is the Leicester revenue of £350k high, or comparable to RL? I know ticket prices are different and they get an average of c.8/10k more through the gates than us.

Re: Wasps gone pop : Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:00 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Interesting to read the RFU saying that maybe it's time for a condensed, 10 team league. Obviously there's a loss of two fixtures per year, but more TV money to go around as well as deeper squads too.

Seems to be the opposite of what IMG are calling for though. Although both are on the same page in regards to promotion/relegation & licences.

Out of interest, does anyone know (Jukes perhaps) how much a RL club makes off their home games? Is the Leicester revenue of £350k high, or comparable to RL? I know ticket prices are different and they get an average of c.8/10k more through the gates than us.

Rogues would be your man
I know he has in the past studied the accounts etc for various reasons

I would ha e my own thoughts and without going into working outs I would say Leicesters revenue above would be High for most RL clubs to match.
Obviously many moving parts Inc hospitality etc which for various reasons will be different from club to club (offset by other costs etc) but I would guesstimate that 150 to 200k per home game would be about right, bearing in mind that in one will be averaged from season ticket sales spread outcome the year

Re: Wasps gone pop : Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:50 pm  

Most union sides don't get anywhere Leicester's crowds, though, do they? I used to live near Bath (I know they're rubbish this season), and The Rec is tiny.

Re: Wasps gone pop : Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:01 pm  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Out of interest, does anyone know (Jukes perhaps) how much a RL club makes off their home games? Is the Leicester revenue of £350k high, or comparable to RL? I know ticket prices are different and they get an average of c.8/10k more through the gates than us.

I'd hazard a guess that Wigan make around £200-£250k per match from tickets (average of 10k @ £20-25 per ticket - Higher in East/West stand but lower for kids)

Re: Wasps gone pop : Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:10 pm  

Pie Eyed wrote:

I'd hazard a guess that Wigan make around £200-£250k per match from tickets (average of 10k @ £20-25 per ticket - Higher in East/West stand but lower for kids)

Jukesays wrote:

Rogues would be your man
I know he has in the past studied the accounts etc for various reasons

I would ha e my own thoughts and without going into working outs I would say Leicesters revenue above would be High for most RL clubs to match.

Obviously many moving parts Inc hospitality etc which for various reasons will be different from club to club (offset by other costs etc) but I would guesstimate that 150 to 200k per home game would be about right, bearing in mind that in one will be averaged from season ticket sales spread outcome the year

Thanks both and I appreciate it's a difficult one to work out. Either with a conservative estimate, it's a worrying figure should a team go bust. It surely has to be something to think about when balancing bringing in expansion teams Vs some established sides?

Re: Wasps gone pop : Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:12 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

So you find it's funny that hundreds of people have lost their jobs, proper sad act like

Re: Wasps gone pop : Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:18 am  

The Whiffy Kipper wrote:

So you find it's funny that hundreds of people have lost their jobs, proper sad act like

What I find funny is that Onion have tried to destroy RL for well over 100 years and this has happened no sympathy from me.

Hope the people who have lost their jobs get another of course,also hope onion implodes.

Re: Wasps gone pop : Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:39 am  

Jason65 wrote:

What I find funny is that Onion have tried to destroy RL for well over 100 years and this has happened no sympathy from me.

Hope the people who have lost their jobs get another of course,also hope onion implodes.

Onion? Likewise with the word 'stains' are you 12 years old or something?

Re: Wasps gone pop : Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:19 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Onion? Likewise with the word 'stains' are you 12 years old or something?

Really,have you never seen anyone put onion down before or stains,what are you blind to anyone who-
1,
Hates Wigan that much they at every point calls us Wigoons and anything else that comes to mind.
2,
Have tried to destroy RL for over 100 yrs or so.
3,
I am not 12 years or so but I will defend RL or Wigan to the hilt.

Have a go at someone else,maybe someone who has a go at-see above,and get off your high horse.

Re: Wasps gone pop : Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:54 am  

Jason65 wrote:

What I find funny is that Onion have tried to destroy RL for well over 100 years and this has happened no sympathy from me.

Hope the people who have lost their jobs get another of course,also hope onion implodes.

How has rugby union tried to destroy rugby league for "well over 100 years"? Yes there was a time but that is so far in the past you probably wernt even born then.

Do you still hate all germans because of Adolph Hitler?