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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:37 pm  
he started out as an analyst. he should go back to it
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:44 pm  
I think Smith could make a very good club manager, in the sort of role Hetherington has played for decades. Or in a central role at the RFL looking at the game as a whole. Suggesting he doesn't know his stuff when it comes to RL is ridiculous. But its really looking like he's not going to work out as head coach.

Just on Miller's kick, to me the responsibility is the half backs. Both Frawley and Croft can kick. Everyone knows Miller is flaky under pressure. They need to push him out of the way and take ownership of the situation. Miller to me reverts to his 7s days under pressure - high risk and all or nothing plays. The way to stop that mattering is to take the decisions away from him.
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:18 pm  
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I think Smith could make a very good club manager, in the sort of role Hetherington has played for decades. Or in a central role at the RFL looking at the game as a whole. Suggesting he doesn't know his stuff when it comes to RL is ridiculous. But its really looking like he's not going to work out as head coach.

Just on Miller's kick, to me the responsibility is the half backs. Both Frawley and Croft can kick. Everyone knows Miller is flaky under pressure. They need to push him out of the way and take ownership of the situation. Miller to me reverts to his 7s days under pressure - high risk and all or nothing plays. The way to stop that mattering is to take the decisions away from him.


I agree with most of this. We lack leadership in these critical on field moments in games. Either it's the captain, the halves, or collective trust in everybody executing the game plan.

Regarding the captain, Smith is probably a good clubman and he's got a good RL brain, but he doesn't seem to be a good leader. He might improve with time, but we've had much younger captains who have been better (e.g. Iestyn, early 00s Sinfield). In fairness Stevie Ward should be doing this job. I don't have much more confidence in Handley, especially given his positioning on the wing, although he's a better player. Maybe Martin, Ackers or Croft would be better choices? Croft needs to be more involved, and maybe this is the way to do it.

The halves need to exert themselves more on the game and their teammates.

Croft summed it up nicely in his interview when he said the players need more belief. There isn't the collective trust in one another not to make errors in possesion, not to make silly defensive lapses, so about half the team are going into their shells and trying to do individual stuff (or take short-cuts) to get us out of trouble. The coach has some responsibility here, but we're lacking that mental resilience to carry into the last 15 minutes of games, when the pressure to crack and revert to lost sheep is at its greatest.
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:04 pm  
Once were Loiners wrote:
I think Smith could make a very good club manager, in the sort of role Hetherington has played for decades. Or in a central role at the RFL looking at the game as a whole. Suggesting he doesn't know his stuff when it comes to RL is ridiculous. But its really looking like he's not going to work out as head coach.

Just on Miller's kick, to me the responsibility is the half backs. Both Frawley and Croft can kick. Everyone knows Miller is flaky under pressure. They need to push him out of the way and take ownership of the situation. Miller to me reverts to his 7s days under pressure - high risk and all or nothing plays. The way to stop that mattering is to take the decisions away from him.


Cameron Smith is the captain he should have got the ball gave it to Frawley and said wang it down field. Miller should not be making those decisions.
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:14 pm  
The player taking the drop outs will be decided before the game, and although it may not seem like it, they practice them regularly
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:08 pm  
Miller made a couple of big mistakes in the game - he has made mistakes in most games before this too. That’s on him, stop blaming the coach.

What we can blame RS for is leaving two injured players on the field for way too long… but then our cover players got found out too. Can’t remember ever seeing a right centre and right wing have to get subbed at the same time before.

RS had to get these signings right for 2024 and I’m not convinced he has.

I think we’re still 2-3 star quality players short of a confidently good side. GH has made most of the big decisions behind the scenes to this point. He’s frankly too old and set in his ways IMO: the world and the game has moved on and so should Leeds.
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:56 pm  
Whilst I`m not a Smith fan you do have to feel sorry for him, sort of.
Newman and Fusitua both coming off and McDonnell at centre with Mom on the wing was an attackers dream.
Miller not able to kick the ball from a drop out.
Oledezki making a break and throwing a wild pass to nobody.
Sangare off loading when everyone could see he needed to keep hold.
McDonnell was it giving a soft pen to get them up the pitch just before HT.
Kendall missing a knock on for their last try and possibly not penalising Huddersfield for the tackle on Miller resulting in a drop out.
We get the above our way and we win the game reasonably comfortably.
Maybe Smith has run over a black cat as I did think first 35 minutes we had turned a corner.
Oh well.
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:07 pm  
amazing people are still finding excuses for smith
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:12 pm  
Tad don’t you rate Smith then?
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Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:27 pm  
Miller is getting a lot of stick for the failed drop out, the quality of the kick is on him. What makes everyone think that it was his call for that play, surely that’s on Cam Smith or Croft and Frawley.
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