Re: St Helens Home. : Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:27 pm  

From a neutrals perspective Saints are by far the dirtiest team in the league. Just ask Mike Cooper or Shane Wright who have had their seasons ended by being twisted in a tackle, Knowles and Lees have been banned for these two incidents. Some Saints fans need to get real, these are dangerous tackles - Tom Holroyd was lucky not to be injured when Sione Mata'utia held his leg as he was twisted. I don't believe that Wellens instruct his side to play this way but the Ref's need to get a grip. And as for Lomax he got the Leeds player sent off, that's cheating in my book, I am glad McDonnell escaped a ban in the end as it was underserved.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:48 pm  

LancashireRed wrote:

From a neutrals perspective Saints are by far the dirtiest team in the league. Just ask Mike Cooper or Shane Wright who have had their seasons ended by being twisted in a tackle, Knowles and Lees have been banned for these two incidents. Some Saints fans need to get real, these are dangerous tackles - Tom Holroyd was lucky not to be injured when Sione Mata'utia held his leg as he was twisted. I don't believe that Wellens instruct his side to play this way but the Ref's need to get a grip. And as for Lomax he got the Leeds player sent off, that's cheating in my book, I am glad McDonnell escaped a ban in the end as it was underserved.

If its not Wellens that is responsible it must be a coincidence St's have set the bar with the level of quality rugby for a good number of years now but since his tenure there has been a change in this level and with it the underhanded tactics, the Lomax incident surprised me as I didn't think he was that type of player but maybe it's acceptable under the current coaching brand.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:55 pm  

I don’t really get the hate for Lomax, it was abit of gamesmanship, something that happens a lot every game, it got McDonnell sent off which is causing the uproar but it’s not much of a crime really is it

Re: St Helens Home. : Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:16 pm  

leedsbarmyarmy wrote:

I don’t really get the hate for Lomax, it was abit of gamesmanship, something that happens a lot every game, it got McDonnell sent off which is causing the uproar but it’s not much of a crime really is it

Maybe not but its just another nasty tactic deployed by Saints this season.

Re: St Helens Home. : Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:02 pm  

It's like that Season that Sam Tompkins was trying to trap the tacklers arm every tackle to get a cheap penalty.
It was cheating and very unsporting.

Re: St Helens Home. : Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:57 am  

RAPIDO wrote:

Maybe not but its just another nasty tactic deployed by Saints this season.

Whats nasty about it though? Every team tries to win penalties and most players would say something to the ref f they thought it would get a ply sin binned or sent off. Its always been part of the game.

Most games you see players trapping arms in the tackle, diving on the floor to try get a penalty at the ruck, exaggerating contact. Its not just Saints and Wellens tactics.