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Let all the doubters keep doubting and those who believe keep believing.

We’re only interested in those in the bubble. Anyone who wants to come in the bubble, you can come in.

But you’ve got to keep believing.

Imagine if your default position due to the right wing's culture war was to be a shill for Big Oil against "The Wokes" trying to cancel it.

Obviously we urgently need to get away from a dependence on fossil fuels. It's so obvious that it shouldn't even need explaining to the nutters.
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Hopie wrote:
An organisation that wants to stop new oil and gas has been mischaracterised as an organisation that wants to immediately stop any use of oil and gas, and in the predominant cultural decision of "one side or the other" you only have two choices. Angrily agree or angrily disagree with everything.

I think everyone knows what they want, in the great scheme of things the uk is doing a pretty good job of reducing emissions and does only account for a tiny percentage of emissions worldwide, its just that this movements spokespeople come across as mentally unstable, using apocalyptic rhetoric which clearly isn't true,it's almost like they've been brainwashed
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MjM wrote:
Imagine if your default position due to the right wing's culture war was to be a shill for Big Oil against "The Wokes" trying to cancel it.

Obviously we urgently need to get away from a dependence on fossil fuels. It's so obvious that it shouldn't even need explaining to the nutters.

Everybody knows we have to get away from fossil fuels ,jeez you'd try and have an argument in an empty room :P
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