Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:59 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

He would have to start another party or rejoin de Pffell and win a seat which is something he has failed to do on several occasions.

Yeah because the left wing msm got it in for him because of there in Brussels pocket

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:30 pm  

Craig_David wrote:

Yeah because the left wing msm got it in for him because of there in Brussels pocket

That's about right.
True Blue, never done anything wrong, it's always someone else's fault
It's always the Unions, The EU, biased press etc, etc

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:07 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

That's about right.
True Blue, never done anything wrong, it's always someone else's fault
It's always the Unions, The EU, biased press etc, etc

The right wing, who have governed the country for the vast majority of time since WW2, who are backed to an embarrassing degree by the press and whose economic ideology - privatisation, underfunded public services, Brexit, low taxes on capital and high incomes - shape our day to day lives in this country.

In their minds they are the real underdogs, they're the ones who are constantly oppressed.

It's the most pathetic thing about Tories - they have absolute power, they've got everything they want but they still constantly want to portray themselves as the victims whilst blaming others for the failure of all that they have done.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:11 pm  

Craig_David wrote:

It has to be truss for me. She the only one able to take tough enough to the french and germans and northern ireland protocol. Sunak would most probably tell french and germans its ok they keep these customs tariffs on are goods!

You all laughed at Liz when she was in china selling british pork. But at least she was doing something to help make britain great britain again. What was Sunak doing? Paying the lay abouts furlough money to stay home and plotting against boris!

I also laughed at her when she was selling cheese to Japan, where over 20% of their population is lactose intolerant.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:40 pm  

Anthony Jones wrote:

I also laughed at her when she was selling cheese to Japan, where over 20% of their population is lactose intolerant.

Don't know why that would be funny. Population of Japan is over 125 million. So only a 100 million market to aim for.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:33 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

Don't know why that would be funny. Population of Japan is over 125 million. So only a 100 million market to aim for.

It's not really a new 100 million market to aim at though is it?

The Japanese full (WTO) duty rate on imports of cheese made from cows milk is 25%. The result of Liz's trade deal means imports of cheese from cows milk into Japan of UK origin will attract a duty rate of 14.6%.

What duty rate do imports of cheese made from cows milk of EU origin attract in Japan? That's right exactly the same 14.6%. So it's not a brexit benefit at all. It's actually what we enjoyed when members of the EU and that was trumpeted as a highlight of the deal.

What the government announce before the deals have been signed and ratified by the WTO aren't always what we end up with but the claim this deal went "far beyond what the EU had achieved in negotiations" was just a straight up lie. The Japanese announced at exactly the same time that this deal just represented a continuation of the EU deal.

Still at the rate our economy is going we might be enjoying the 0% duty rate of a least developed country before too long.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:58 pm  

It's funny when the few remaining believers in the cult of Brexit quote benefits of leaving which turn out to be the same as or worse what we had as members

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:40 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

It's funny when the few remaining believers in the cult of Brexit quote benefits of leaving which turn out to be the same as or worse what we had as members

Where in my post did I say it was a benefit of Brexit? That's right I didn' t.
My point was the poster was laughing because we were trying to sell cheese to Japan as if it was a stupid thing to do.
Typical europhile making stuff up to suit your tired repetitive agenda.

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:42 pm  

Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:

It's not really a new 100 million market to aim at though is it?

The Japanese full (WTO) duty rate on imports of cheese made from cows milk is 25%. The result of Liz's trade deal means imports of cheese from cows milk into Japan of UK origin will attract a duty rate of 14.6%.

What duty rate do imports of cheese made from cows milk of EU origin attract in Japan? That's right exactly the same 14.6%. So it's not a brexit benefit at all. It's actually what we enjoyed when members of the EU and that was trumpeted as a highlight of the deal.

What the government announce before the deals have been signed and ratified by the WTO aren't always what we end up with but the claim this deal went "far beyond what the EU had achieved in negotiations" was just a straight up lie. The Japanese announced at exactly the same time that this deal just represented a continuation of the EU deal.

Still at the rate our economy is going we might be enjoying the 0% duty rate of a least developed country before too long.

So we got the same deal as if we were in the EU without having to pay for the privilege?
Hmmmm

Re: Tory Leadership Contest : Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:24 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

Where in my post did I say it was a benefit of Brexit? That's right I didn' t.
My point was the poster was laughing because we were trying to sell cheese to Japan as if it was a stupid thing to do.
Typical europhile making stuff up to suit your tired repetitive agenda.

Where in my post did I mention you?
Typical Quitter making stuff up so that they can make themselves the victim.