Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:45 am  

Another grovelling apology, this time from the recently appointed Health Secretary.
Has there ever been such a bunch of ******* charlatans?

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:58 pm  

mailman wrote:

Yeah, his twitter username is @uksciencechief and he clarified it last night.

I wouldn't trust a word from that conman Vallance. Deliberately giving mixed messages to confuse the public.

The COVID-19 Actuaries Response Group reported in the over 50s both the unvaccinated and those give one dose under 21 days only make up 34% of hopsitalised cases as at 21 June.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:39 pm  

MatthewTrin wrote:

I wouldn't trust a word from that conman Vallance. Deliberately giving mixed messages to confuse the public.

The COVID-19 Actuaries Response Group reported in the over 50s both the unvaccinated and those give one dose under 21 days only make up 34% of hopsitalised cases as at 21 June.

Have you concluded your "research yet" and if so, what action should have been taken over the last 18 months+ and what action would you suggest in the coming months ?
No vaccinations, no masks, no distancing etc
What about hospital treatment and staff working within the care sector ?

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:09 pm  

MatthewTrin wrote:

mailman wrote:

Yeah, his twitter username is @uksciencechief and he clarified it last night.

I wouldn't trust a word from that conman Vallance. Deliberately giving mixed messages to confuse the public.

The COVID-19 Actuaries Response Group reported in the over 50s both the unvaccinated and those give one dose under 21 days only make up 34% of hopsitalised cases as at 21 June.

A tiny bit of knowledge is such a dangerous thing for some people.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:47 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

A tiny bit of knowledge is such a dangerous thing for some people.

Truth hurts when it doesn't fit your vaccine narrative.

Patients in a UK hospital with a positive test in the last 28 days on 22/07/2020 - 1,747
Patients in a UK hospital with a positive test in the last 28 days on 22/07/2021 - 5,001

7 day average number of deceased people who had had a positive test result and died within 28 days by 15/07/2020 - 18
7 day average number of deceased people who had had a positive test result and died within 28 days by 15/07/2021 - 46

coronavirus.data.gov

Facts speak for themselves, we are in a worst position than this time last year.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:33 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Have you concluded your "research yet" and if so, what action should have been taken over the last 18 months+ and what action would you suggest in the coming months ?
No vaccinations, no masks, no distancing etc
What about hospital treatment and staff working within the care sector ?

Temporary ban on all flights into the country in December to give time to allow for an urgent risk assessment, I would've never spent £569 million on ventilators or £35 million on the NHS C19 app, rather spending billions on test & trace this money would be better spent on designing & building germ/virus free hospitals, increased hospital capacity & fast tracked critical care training for nurses, N95 masks available for all healthcare workers, "non essential" shops/services "allowed" to stay open, early randomised control trials across all environments to establish what preventive measures actually work and don't work (distancing, paper masks etc), targeted recommended stay at home orders for all vulnerable individuals that could be threatened by the affects of the virus, protect care homes by incentivsing carers to stay in the care home and not dumping sick patients into them, well advertised free delivery service (food, medical etc) available to all elderly and vulnerable, greater research into existing safe treatments to both prevent & cure, performance based targets on those making decisions i.e. doing X will result in a reduction of Y, if not achieved then they would be made to leave their post, production of safe inactivated vaccines to those that require it, advertising importance of good health i.e. exercise & diet, continued treating non C19 patients to prevent the 13 million NHS backlog.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:17 pm  

MatthewTrin wrote:

Truth hurts when it doesn't fit your vaccine narrative.

Patients in a UK hospital with a positive test in the last 28 days on 22/07/2020 - 1,747
Patients in a UK hospital with a positive test in the last 28 days on 22/07/2021 - 5,001

7 day average number of deceased people who had had a positive test result and died within 28 days by 15/07/2020 - 18
7 day average number of deceased people who had had a positive test result and died within 28 days by 15/07/2021 - 46

coronavirus.data.gov

Facts speak for themselves, we are in a worst position than this time last year.

We were in complete lockdown this time last year though, the number of cases was far fewer than it is now, which you'd expect if nobody is leaving their home.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:54 pm  

"Cases" are of no major interest at this point; it's just a positive PCR result for SARS-COV2. Besides we had no sophisticated wide spread billion pound mass testing system in place last summer. We were only conducting around 100,000 tests a day whereas we are now testing over a million people.

Correct me if I'm wrong but lockdown was eased on 15th June last year; all non-essential shops were allowed to re-open along with galleries, museums, pubs, restaurants and cinemas. From 6 July, non-essential overseas travel was permitted. On 25th July indoor gyms, pools and other sports facilities reopened. As restrictions were lifted we didn't see this level of hospitalisation/deaths until October last year.

Looking at the Governments published figures I'm not convinced by this vaccine programme at all. I suppose we will find out if I'm wrong in October.

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:46 pm  

darwin award nominees keep coming...... JUNE 2020: Stephen Harmon, a member of Hillsong megachurch and a vocal opponent of vaccines, tweeted to his 7,000 followers: "Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," JULY 23RD 2020. Stephen Harmon, a member of Hillsong megachurch and a vocal opponent of vaccines DIES OF COVID 19 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57958358

darwin award nominees keep coming...... JUNE 2020: Stephen Harmon, a member of Hillsong megachurch and a vocal opponent of vaccines, tweeted to his 7,000 followers: "Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," JULY 23RD 2020. Stephen Harmon, a member of Hillsong megachurch and a vocal opponent of vaccines DIES OF COVID 19 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57958358

Re: "freeDUMB day" : Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:03 pm  

Good to see infections starting to drop, given we have no lockdown, no enforced distance or masks - how has this happened?