Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:54 am  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Worst recruitment since Melchester Rovers signed Steve Norman and Martin Kemp from Spandau Ballet.

To cut a long story short! I would guess that didn't work out too well either.
We don't need this pressure on!!

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:23 pm  

BP1 wrote:

To cut a long story short! I would guess that didn't work out too well either.
We don't need this pressure on!!

That is true.

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:46 pm  

RockNRolla wrote:

I'm not normally one for calling players but Pele was horrendous last night. Just one carry in his first stint(18 minutes) Came back on in the 61st minute and was off again in the 77th and recall he did two carries.
Like Ockunbor, he just doesn't look interested.
Just shows how appalling the recruitment has been.

In Tony we trusted

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:50 pm  

Hasbag wrote:

I think people overestimated what Pele would/could actually do this season, possibly highlighted by you referring to him as an experienced player. He's only 6 months older than Will Gardiner and played a very similar amount of games. The fact he's come from Australia probably puts expectations up, but he's still fairly young and very inexperienced.

iwould take Pele any day over Gardiner

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:01 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Most teams use their outside backs on exit sets

I know they do, we have done for years but it’s clearly not working with the lightweight kids we have in. The forwards need to pick up the slack. Several times last night, only 1 forward took a drive in per set.

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:07 pm  

FC Callum wrote:

I know they do, we have done for years but it’s clearly not working with the lightweight kids we have in. The forwards need to pick up the slack. Several times last night, only 1 forward took a drive in per set.

That's because we're not fit enough and spend too much time defending and forwards take 3 tackles to get back behind the ball. Add in shorter and passive defence and our sets invariably start within 10 metres of our own line

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:25 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

That's because we're not fit enough and spend too much time defending and forwards take 3 tackles to get back behind the ball. Add in shorter and passive defence and our sets invariably start within 10 metres of our own line

Whatever the issue, it needs addressing. The back rowers should be getting more involved. Either way we aren’t making yards, resulting in kicking from deep and inviting full sets to defend in our half. Can excuse the likes of Moy or Martin not making metres but not McIntosh, a senior player, who instead of belting back into the line, is crabbing across the pitch, throwing drop offs and speculators, one of which was miles forward.

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:21 pm  

Hasbag wrote:

I think people overestimated what Pele would/could actually do this season, possibly highlighted by you referring to him as an experienced player. He's only 6 months older than Will Gardiner and played a very similar amount of games. The fact he's come from Australia probably puts expectations up, but he's still fairly young and very inexperienced.

If he was signed as a 5th/6th choice prop then maybe, but he's wearing the no.10 shirt, is taking a quota spot, and the club heavily hyped him up with the merchandise, so I think fans are right to expect more from him

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:10 pm  

If only we’d have dropped Okunbor and played balmforth like people have been shouting on here for years , we might have taken the 2 points last nights eh …. Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn’t it ! Coaches galore

Re: Saints (A) next up - IAKOW : Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:29 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Yes, pretty horrendous especially compared to who we were signing just a couple of year before. We did at least bring Ratu in as a trialist that year.

Yeah, Radders just wasn't backed finacially after delivering us our greatest times in modern history, and that cost us losing one of the best coaches in the business. He was still savvy enough to bring in some cheap gems like Ratu, Satae and Swift. And while we went backwards, he went on to be part of the coaching staff that took Samoa to the World cup final.