FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Clifford dismisses our training methods.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star6587
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 23 20186 years43rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Jun 24 12:306th Jun 24 12:26LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kingston upon Hull

Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:32 pm  
Has Jake really hit the nail on the head, regarding our preparation for the new season, are the days of pulling tractor tyres up Brantingham hills a thing of the past, we seem to cop so many injuries consistently over and over.

I questioned our fitness in the friendly matches, and overall our first game we seemed gassed latterly, of course we suffered some disruption in the Derby, but if one of own players says our training doesn’t compare what can we do.

Do we still use the chryrochambers (spelling sorry) which seemed to help in 2016/17 with injuries and recovery, or are they to expensive, is it about money, what and how do other teams compare, is it something we could emulate, what does Clifford do differently in Oz.
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner24775No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 14 200321 years1st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Jun 24 08:356th Jun 24 14:01LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Back in Hull.

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:37 pm  
Actually I thought fitness wasn't a big issue, played with 12 men for 50 minutes, only one sub for a while, I would have expected more than one try to be scored.

Guess we will see later in the season.

I'd bet every single NRL clubs pre season is tougher the. SL ones. They will have better facilities, more staff etc.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner21707
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 25 200321 years4th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Jun 24 21:026th Jun 24 06:34LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:58 pm  
I took it more of a statement of how tough it is at the Cowboys.
RankPostsTeam
International Star7212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 04 201410 years8th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Jun 24 12:586th Jun 24 12:40LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:11 pm  
Riderofthepalehorse wrote:
Has Jake really hit the nail on the head, regarding our preparation for the new season, are the days of pulling tractor tyres up Brantingham hills a thing of the past, we seem to cop so many injuries consistently over and over.

I questioned our fitness in the friendly matches, and overall our first game we seemed gassed latterly, of course we suffered some disruption in the Derby, but if one of own players says our training doesn’t compare what can we do.

Do we still use the chryrochambers (spelling sorry) which seemed to help in 2016/17 with injuries and recovery, or are they to expensive, is it about money, what and how do other teams compare, is it something we could emulate, what does Clifford do differently in Oz.


Its warm weather training which makes a huge difference with more emphasis on speed training than we have here which is why the game is faster in the NRL and most of the players have a lot more pace
RankPostsTeam
International Star7212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 04 201410 years8th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Jun 24 12:586th Jun 24 12:40LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:16 pm  
Dave K. wrote:
Actually I thought fitness wasn't a big issue, played with 12 men for 50 minutes, only one sub for a while, I would have expected more than one try to be scored.

Guess we will see later in the season.

I'd bet every single NRL clubs pre season is tougher the. SL ones. They will have better facilities, more staff etc.


He is talking about last season when Smith had the idea of a slow build into fitness to try and cut down on injuries.
All that did was show we were unfit compared with the likes of HKR and clearly didnt work
This season Smith rightly has taken a different approach
UllFC 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach16948No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 27 200420 years35th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Jun 24 11:466th Jun 24 06:11LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:01 pm  
I doubt any SL clubs pre season is as intense as the NRL but its still another damning comment about the state of the club, what exactly are they doing all week in training?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4670
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 10 200222 years23rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Jun 24 12:051st Jun 24 21:52LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Kingston upon Hull F.C.

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:56 pm  
Was Clifford here for the start of pre season training?
Or later on when it was less fitness based?

I’d be shocked if our training was NRL standard, given their staff numbers, facilities and climate.

At least it will enable him to rip it up in the NRL, and not drop off in form like he did here.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8374
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 05 200618 years39th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
5th Jun 24 20:486th Jun 24 12:29LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:16 pm  
Irregular Hoops wrote:
Was Clifford here for the start of pre season training?
Or later on when it was less fitness based?

I’d be shocked if our training was NRL standard, given their staff numbers, facilities and climate.

At least it will enable him to rip it up in the NRL, and not drop off in form like he did here.


He arrived in the December I believe, so missed the 'harder 'stuff, of which there was less last pre season anyway
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner24775No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 14 200321 years1st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
6th Jun 24 08:356th Jun 24 14:01LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Back in Hull.

Re: Clifford dismisses our training methods. : Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:56 pm  
bonaire wrote:
He is talking about last season when Smith had the idea of a slow build into fitness to try and cut down on injuries.
All that did was show we were unfit compared with the likes of HKR and clearly didnt work
This season Smith rightly has taken a different approach


The opening poster, commented about fitness in the derby, so this season.

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Hull FC


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Wire part 1 of 2
Itchy Arsena
151
9m
1895 Cup Final to be televised at last
phe13
4
11m
Wire part 2 of 2
[Gareth]
3
19m
Next Stop Wembley aka wigan wk 2
WireWireWire
43
23m
Squad for Wigan Cup
WireWireWire
19
24m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
1889
25m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Challenge Cup FINAL
Douglas Blac
12
30m
Applegarth Back in RL
Prince Buste
19
34m
MKM pitch
The Dentist
5
56m
Team for wembley
poplar cats
32
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
52s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37216
52s
Squad for Wigan Cup
WireWireWire
19
1m
Team for wembley
poplar cats
32
1m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 14
rotherhamrhi
2
1m
Next Stop Wembley aka wigan wk 2
WireWireWire
43
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
Mr Snoodle
2511
2m
Barrow H
Peter Goddar
32
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
59215
2m
2025 Player Recruitment Wishlist & Rumours
J7P1
20
3m
Free Wembley Tickets
p3108
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wire part 2 of 2
[Gareth]
3
TODAY
MKM pitch
The Dentist
5
TODAY
Free Wembley Tickets
p3108
1
TODAY
Squad for Wigan Cup
WireWireWire
19
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 14
rotherhamrhi
2
TODAY
Mark Preston Interforums/view
Rogues Galle
1
TODAY
Applegarth Back in RL
Prince Buste
19
TODAY
Rugby League to pay homage to Rob Burrow CBE at Wembley
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Bramley Buffaloes
GeoffRoebuck
1
TODAY
2024 State of Origin - Game 1 Contains Spoilers
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Rugby League to pay homage to ..
267
2024 State of Origin - Game 1 ..
230
Rob Burrow - The Passing of a ..
816
Salford Red Devils Up To Six A..
511
Leeds Into The Six After Derby..
611
Weakened Wigan Beat Warrington..
702
St Helens Extend Lead At The T..
836
Wigan Warriors Back Level Top ..
1827
Massive Win For The Wolves Ove..
1537
Super Saints Second Half Demol..
1560
St Helens Women Serve Cup Fina..
1824
Martin Offiah Cup Final Guest ..
1214
Warrington Wolves Destroy Hudd..
1950
Leeds Rhinos To Meet Saints At..
1800
Easy Does It As Wigan Thrash H..
2159
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.59M +11,718 ↓-7980,07014,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Sat 15th Jun
Mens Super League XXVIII-R14
15:00
Hull FC
v
Leeds
 Sat 22nd Jun
Mens Super League XXVIII-R15
15:00
Hull FC
v
Warrington
 Sat 17th Aug 2024
Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
13:00
Hull FC
v
LondonB
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 8th Jun
1895
17:45
Wakefield-Sheffield
WOMCC2024
11:45
St.HelensW-LeedsW
CC2024
15:07
Wigan-Warrington
Fri 14th Jun
SL
20:00
Castleford-Wigan
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Huddersfield
SL
20:00
Warrington-Salford
Sat 15th Jun
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Leeds
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leigh
Sun 16th Jun
SL
15:00
LondonB-St.Helens
Thu 20th Jun
SL
20:00
Castleford-Hull KR
Fri 21st Jun
SL
20:00
Leeds-Leigh
SL
20:00
Wigan-LondonB
Sat 22nd Jun
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Warrington
SL
17:30
Catalans-Huddersfield
Sun 23rd Jun
SL
15:00
Salford-St.Helens
Wed 26th Jun
SOO
11:05
New South Wales-Queensland
Sat 29th Jun
MINT2024
17:00
France M-England M
WINT2024
14:30
FRANCE W-ENGLAND W
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
Sun 2nd Jun
SL 13 Salford34-4LondonB
WSL2024 5 York V44-4Wire W
CH 10 Batley31-18Sheffield
CH 10 Bradford36-24Barrow
CH 10 Doncaster25-25Whitehaven
CH 10 Featherstone40-42Swinton
CH 10 York18-22Widnes
L1 10 Cornwall30-6Newcastle
L1 10 Midlands18-25Keighley
L1 10 Workington22-24Hunslet
NRL 13 Sydney16-18NQL Cowboys
Sat 1st Jun
SL 13 Leeds32-4Castleford
SL 13 Warrington18-19Wigan
SL 13 Hull KR12-0Leigh
WSL2024 5 LeedsW68-0BarrowW
WSL2024 5 FeatherstoneW10-30Hudds W
CH 10 Halifax24-38Toulouse
L1 10 Crusaders24-25Oldham
NRL 13 Penrith10-22St.George
NRL 13 Dolphins25-26Canberra
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
St.Helens 13 353 136 217 20
Wigan 12 357 156 201 20
Hull KR 13 338 183 155 18
Warrington 13 320 170 150 18
Catalans 13 264 192 72 16
Salford 13 250 256 -6 16
 
Leeds 13 246 242 4 14
Huddersfield 13 274 263 11 12
Leigh 12 244 206 38 9
Castleford 13 218 406 -188 7
Hull FC 13 162 440 -278 2
LondonB 13 134 510 -376 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 10 384 100 284 20
Widnes 10 260 171 89 15
Sheffield 10 288 170 118 14
Featherstone 10 290 211 79 12
Bradford 10 229 184 45 12
Toulouse 9 224 174 50 10
 
Doncaster 10 215 227 -12 9
Swinton 10 226 270 -44 8
Batley 10 161 218 -57 8
Whitehaven 10 192 272 -80 8
Barrow 9 151 255 -104 8
York 11 201 251 -50 6
Halifax 10 170 285 -115 6
Dewsbury 11 144 303 -159 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Wire part 1 of 2
Itchy Arsena
151
9m
1895 Cup Final to be televised at last
phe13
4
11m
Wire part 2 of 2
[Gareth]
3
19m
Next Stop Wembley aka wigan wk 2
WireWireWire
43
23m
Squad for Wigan Cup
WireWireWire
19
24m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
mwindass
1889
25m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Challenge Cup FINAL
Douglas Blac
12
30m
Applegarth Back in RL
Prince Buste
19
34m
MKM pitch
The Dentist
5
56m
Team for wembley
poplar cats
32
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
52s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37216
52s
Squad for Wigan Cup
WireWireWire
19
1m
Team for wembley
poplar cats
32
1m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 14
rotherhamrhi
2
1m
Next Stop Wembley aka wigan wk 2
WireWireWire
43
1m
Recruitment rumours and links
Mr Snoodle
2511
2m
Barrow H
Peter Goddar
32
2m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
59215
2m
2025 Player Recruitment Wishlist & Rumours
J7P1
20
3m
Free Wembley Tickets
p3108
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Wire part 2 of 2
[Gareth]
3
TODAY
MKM pitch
The Dentist
5
TODAY
Free Wembley Tickets
p3108
1
TODAY
Squad for Wigan Cup
WireWireWire
19
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 14
rotherhamrhi
2
TODAY
Mark Preston Interforums/view
Rogues Galle
1
TODAY
Applegarth Back in RL
Prince Buste
19
TODAY
Rugby League to pay homage to Rob Burrow CBE at Wembley
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Bramley Buffaloes
GeoffRoebuck
1
TODAY
2024 State of Origin - Game 1 Contains Spoilers
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Rugby League to pay homage to ..
267
2024 State of Origin - Game 1 ..
230
Rob Burrow - The Passing of a ..
816
Salford Red Devils Up To Six A..
511
Leeds Into The Six After Derby..
611
Weakened Wigan Beat Warrington..
702
St Helens Extend Lead At The T..
836
Wigan Warriors Back Level Top ..
1827
Massive Win For The Wolves Ove..
1537
Super Saints Second Half Demol..
1560
St Helens Women Serve Cup Fina..
1824
Martin Offiah Cup Final Guest ..
1214
Warrington Wolves Destroy Hudd..
1950
Leeds Rhinos To Meet Saints At..
1800
Easy Does It As Wigan Thrash H..
2159


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!