Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:09 am  

PopTart wrote:

I agree. Atoni is a big disappointment. I hope its just fitness that will improve but its his running game we need. His tackle stats aren't bad but we have loads of tackles.

It's always the same. When we lose heavily people point to the fitness and defense when most of the time for us it is completion rate and field position.
Lino has proved when he has a dominent pack he runs rings round opposition, but he can't do it with a rushing defense on the half way line.

The stats we need to improve are post contact metres especially in the middle and speed and accuracy of pass.

It would be nice if the wingers ran with confidence too but good field position will do that.

Atoni is doing an average of 58 metres a game, that wouldn’t be good enough in league 1 never mind SL. Lino is second in the league at errors, so for me he’s either Tommy Dickfingers or too much pressure on him to come up with plays with the minimal time we spend on the opposition line. Paul Vaughan has made 1/6 of our total metres so far, that’s 1 prop. We are top for tackles, yet in the middle of the table for missed tackles, so our defence and effort is there.

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:14 am  

I don’t know if it’s budget available or not but since Chester has come to Leigh our signings have been the best we have ever seen, obviously Lam is a pull as the Australia assistant coach but our imports have been superb, rather than names (Blake Ferguson was unreal) we have gone for young energetic fringe players, Asiata is one of the best players I have ever seen in a Leigh shirt. Makes you wonder if Chester was behind all your signings?

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:29 am  

Chester left us with Lee Gaskell, Liam Hood, and Tom Lineham. Enough said.

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 10:48 am  

Binosh wrote:

I don’t know if it’s budget available or not but since Chester has come to Leigh our signings have been the best we have ever seen, obviously Lam is a pull as the Australia assistant coach but our imports have been superb, rather than names (Blake Ferguson was unreal) we have gone for young energetic fringe players, Asiata is one of the best players I have ever seen in a Leigh shirt. Makes you wonder if Chester was behind all your signings?

I would say more the budget available.
CC wasted what budget he had on Gaskell and Lineham.
You're very lucky to have a benefactor - I'm afraid that's the fundamental difference between us and the rest of SL.
Money talks. always has and always will.

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:02 am  

Binosh wrote:

I don’t know if it’s budget available or not but since Chester has come to Leigh our signings have been the best we have ever seen, obviously Lam is a pull as the Australia assistant coach but our imports have been superb, rather than names (Blake Ferguson was unreal) we have gone for young energetic fringe players, Asiata is one of the best players I have ever seen in a Leigh shirt. Makes you wonder if Chester was behind all your signings?

You're shopping in Sainsbury's and we're shopping in Poundland !!

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:30 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Chester left us with Lee Gaskell, Liam Hood, and Tom Lineham. Enough said.

The current set up extended Hoods deal this season.

Though I don’t think Hood is bad. He’s a solid 9 but that’s about it.

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 5:24 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

The current set up extended Hoods deal this season.

Though I don’t think Hood is bad. He’s a solid 9 but that’s about it.

I think this comment sums up our predicament. I think what you say about Hood is correct but it comes back to that point again, would he get in any other super leagues first choice team? Personally i don't think he would and at best he might get a gig as squad player, which is a similar story for a large amount of our best 17 and is where our problem lies. Sadly we just don't have the quality accross the board to regularly compete and neither do we have any real strength in depth when the injuries hit. Our retainment & recruitment over an extended period has left us in a fair size hole.

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:12 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

Atoni is doing an average of 58 metres a game, that wouldn’t be good enough in league 1 never mind SL. Lino is second in the league at errors, so for me he’s either Tommy Dickfingers or too much pressure on him to come up with plays with the minimal time we spend on the opposition line. Paul Vaughan has made 1/6 of our total metres so far, that’s 1 prop. We are top for tackles, yet in the middle of the table for missed tackles, so our defence and effort is there.

Funnily enough both Atoni and Taufua made 69 m gains and Whitbread 71

Re: CC and recruitment : Sun Mar 26, 2023 9:12 pm  

FIL wrote:

You're shopping in Sainsbury's and we're shopping in Poundland !!

Yes but if you shop a Poundland and pay Sainsbury money that's when the real problem starts

Re: CC and recruitment : Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:55 am  

Prince Buster wrote:

Yes but if you shop a Poundland and pay Sainsbury money that's when the real problem starts

When you pay Harrods Money for Gaskell