FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H)
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner24001
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 19 200419 years19th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th May 24 04:5113th May 24 08:11LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
in bed between halle berry and jennifer aniston

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:37 pm  
he started out as an analyst. he should go back to it
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1037No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 15 20212 years39th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 23:2312th May 24 13:15LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:44 pm  
I think Smith could make a very good club manager, in the sort of role Hetherington has played for decades. Or in a central role at the RFL looking at the game as a whole. Suggesting he doesn't know his stuff when it comes to RL is ridiculous. But its really looking like he's not going to work out as head coach.

Just on Miller's kick, to me the responsibility is the half backs. Both Frawley and Croft can kick. Everyone knows Miller is flaky under pressure. They need to push him out of the way and take ownership of the situation. Miller to me reverts to his 7s days under pressure - high risk and all or nothing plays. The way to stop that mattering is to take the decisions away from him.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member7232
JoinedServiceReputation
May 28 200222 years122nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 20:5512th May 24 14:12LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Isca Dumnoniorum

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:18 pm  
Once were Loiners wrote:
I think Smith could make a very good club manager, in the sort of role Hetherington has played for decades. Or in a central role at the RFL looking at the game as a whole. Suggesting he doesn't know his stuff when it comes to RL is ridiculous. But its really looking like he's not going to work out as head coach.

Just on Miller's kick, to me the responsibility is the half backs. Both Frawley and Croft can kick. Everyone knows Miller is flaky under pressure. They need to push him out of the way and take ownership of the situation. Miller to me reverts to his 7s days under pressure - high risk and all or nothing plays. The way to stop that mattering is to take the decisions away from him.


I agree with most of this. We lack leadership in these critical on field moments in games. Either it's the captain, the halves, or collective trust in everybody executing the game plan.

Regarding the captain, Smith is probably a good clubman and he's got a good RL brain, but he doesn't seem to be a good leader. He might improve with time, but we've had much younger captains who have been better (e.g. Iestyn, early 00s Sinfield). In fairness Stevie Ward should be doing this job. I don't have much more confidence in Handley, especially given his positioning on the wing, although he's a better player. Maybe Martin, Ackers or Croft would be better choices? Croft needs to be more involved, and maybe this is the way to do it.

The halves need to exert themselves more on the game and their teammates.

Croft summed it up nicely in his interview when he said the players need more belief. There isn't the collective trust in one another not to make errors in possesion, not to make silly defensive lapses, so about half the team are going into their shells and trying to do individual stuff (or take short-cuts) to get us out of trouble. The coach has some responsibility here, but we're lacking that mental resilience to carry into the last 15 minutes of games, when the pressure to crack and revert to lost sheep is at its greatest.
RankPostsTeam
International Star4797No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 15 201113 years116th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 17:4212th May 24 10:18LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:04 pm  
Once were Loiners wrote:
I think Smith could make a very good club manager, in the sort of role Hetherington has played for decades. Or in a central role at the RFL looking at the game as a whole. Suggesting he doesn't know his stuff when it comes to RL is ridiculous. But its really looking like he's not going to work out as head coach.

Just on Miller's kick, to me the responsibility is the half backs. Both Frawley and Croft can kick. Everyone knows Miller is flaky under pressure. They need to push him out of the way and take ownership of the situation. Miller to me reverts to his 7s days under pressure - high risk and all or nothing plays. The way to stop that mattering is to take the decisions away from him.


Cameron Smith is the captain he should have got the ball gave it to Frawley and said wang it down field. Miller should not be making those decisions.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2623No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 15 20204 years53rd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 18:0011th May 24 18:16LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 4:14 pm  
The player taking the drop outs will be decided before the game, and although it may not seem like it, they practice them regularly
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain4394
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 18 20186 years21st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 22:5613th May 24 07:29LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:08 pm  
Miller made a couple of big mistakes in the game - he has made mistakes in most games before this too. That’s on him, stop blaming the coach.

What we can blame RS for is leaving two injured players on the field for way too long… but then our cover players got found out too. Can’t remember ever seeing a right centre and right wing have to get subbed at the same time before.

RS had to get these signings right for 2024 and I’m not convinced he has.

I think we’re still 2-3 star quality players short of a confidently good side. GH has made most of the big decisions behind the scenes to this point. He’s frankly too old and set in his ways IMO: the world and the game has moved on and so should Leeds.
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member6871
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 02 200222 years44th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 20:4812th May 24 20:40LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Wakefield but near to Leeds!

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:56 pm  
Whilst I`m not a Smith fan you do have to feel sorry for him, sort of.
Newman and Fusitua both coming off and McDonnell at centre with Mom on the wing was an attackers dream.
Miller not able to kick the ball from a drop out.
Oledezki making a break and throwing a wild pass to nobody.
Sangare off loading when everyone could see he needed to keep hold.
McDonnell was it giving a soft pen to get them up the pitch just before HT.
Kendall missing a knock on for their last try and possibly not penalising Huddersfield for the tackle on Miller resulting in a drop out.
We get the above our way and we win the game reasonably comfortably.
Maybe Smith has run over a black cat as I did think first 35 minutes we had turned a corner.
Oh well.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner24001
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 19 200419 years19th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
13th May 24 04:5113th May 24 08:11LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
in bed between halle berry and jennifer aniston

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:07 pm  
amazing people are still finding excuses for smith
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain4394
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 18 20186 years21st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 22:5613th May 24 07:29LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:12 pm  
Tad don’t you rate Smith then?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star709
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 17 201410 years186th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
12th May 24 20:0529th Apr 24 12:07LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
Lifelong supporter, marching on together

Re: RD 8 | Huddersfield Giants (H) : Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:27 pm  
Miller is getting a lot of stick for the failed drop out, the quality of the kick is on him. What makes everyone think that it was his call for that play, surely that’s on Cam Smith or Croft and Frawley.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Emagdnim13, finglas, leeds owl, Philbetter, ploinerrhino, steamy, STEVENM1000, tad rhino, YosemiteSam and 305 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Leeds Rhinos


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58304
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36365
2m
London Away
Jake the Peg
271
2m
Shopping list for 2025
bishops fing
1818
7m
Shay rent
Bubba
14
19m
RD 11 Catalan Dragons A
tad rhino
122
22m
Tonights game v HKR
Big lads mat
64
27m
Hull
TF and the w
20
33m
Bradford next
alegend
140
33m
Sam Eseh
NickyKiss
18
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
25s
Bradford next
alegend
140
26s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
8972
27s
Hull
TF and the w
20
28s
Asiata is going to Hull
Vancouver Le
47
36s
RD 11 Catalan Dragons A
tad rhino
122
37s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58304
37s
Gawry Hetherington
FlexWheeler
29
40s
IMG
PopTart
61
42s
London Broncos First Win Of 2024 Over Awful Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
43s
Am I missing something
FlexWheeler
71
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Support today
PopTart
9
TODAY
BBC
supercat
9
TODAY
Ticket for the final
PopTart
17
TODAY
London Broncos First Win Of 2024 Over Awful Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Semi Final
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
"I didnt see that coming"
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Sensational Second Forty Crushes Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leopards Change Their Spots
Leyther in n
5
TODAY
Luke Yates
WYSIWYG2
3
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hull KR As They Go Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Hull fc
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Charnley signs
WYSIWYG2
2
TODAY
Tonights game v HKR
Big lads mat
64
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
London Broncos First Win Of 20..
273
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
315
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
510
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
779
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
825
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
1576
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
1558
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
1225
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
1327
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
3122
Salford Red Devils Battle Hard..
2908
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
3038
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
3468
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
3722
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
3328
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.59M +12,828 ↑8180,04814,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Sat 17th Aug 2024
Mens Super League XXVIII-R22
18:00
Warrington
v
Leeds
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 18th May
CC2024
13:15
Hull KR-Wigan
WOMCC2024
11:15
St.HelensW-York V
Sun 19th May
CC2024
15:15
Huddersfield-Warrington
WOMCC2024
12:30
WiganW-LeedsW
Fri 24th May
WSL2024
17:00
St.HelensW-LeedsW
Sat 8th Jun
1895
17:00
Wakefield-Sheffield
Sat 29th Jun
MINT2024
17:00
France M-England M
WINT2024
14:30
FRANCE W-ENGLAND W
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 12th May
SL 11 LondonB34-18Hull FC
WSL2024 3 Wire W10-6BarrowW
WSL2024 3 York V10-16LeedsW
L1 8 Midlands22-24Cornwall
1895 5 Bradford14-40Wakefield
1895 5 York18-28Sheffield
NRL 10 Sydney38-18NZ Warriors
NRL 10 Gold Coast20-18NQL Cowboys
Sat 11th May
SL 11 Huddersfield6-48Wigan
SL 11 Catalans26-0Leeds
WSL2024 3 Hudds W0-102WiganW
WSL2024 3 FeatherstoneW4-58St.HelensW
NRL 10 Wests14-20Newcastle
NRL 10 St.George28-14Souths
NRL 10 Melbourne18-25Cronulla
Fri 10th May
SL 11 Castleford4-60St.Helens
SL 11 Leigh40-12Salford
NRL 10 Parramatta14-30Brisbane
NRL 10 Penrith16-10Canterbury
Thu 9th May
SL 11 Warrington20-8Hull KR
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 10 312 132 180 16
St.Helens 11 289 114 175 16
Warrington 11 286 143 143 16
Catalans 11 244 152 92 16
Hull KR 11 262 169 93 14
Salford 11 210 226 -16 14
 
Leeds 11 204 198 6 12
Huddersfield 11 240 229 11 10
Leigh 10 228 184 44 7
Castleford 11 184 352 -168 5
Hull FC 11 122 386 -264 2
LondonB 11 116 412 -296 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 7 252 72 180 14
Sheffield 7 224 98 126 12
Widnes 7 190 97 93 12
Featherstone 7 192 132 60 10
Bradford 7 145 129 16 8
Toulouse 7 158 130 28 6
 
Doncaster 7 156 168 -12 6
Swinton 7 140 154 -14 6
Whitehaven 7 133 189 -56 6
Barrow 7 102 207 -105 6
Batley 7 109 154 -45 4
Halifax 7 94 199 -105 4
York 7 113 189 -76 2
Dewsbury 7 115 205 -90 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58304
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
36365
2m
London Away
Jake the Peg
271
2m
Shopping list for 2025
bishops fing
1818
7m
Shay rent
Bubba
14
19m
RD 11 Catalan Dragons A
tad rhino
122
22m
Tonights game v HKR
Big lads mat
64
27m
Hull
TF and the w
20
33m
Bradford next
alegend
140
33m
Sam Eseh
NickyKiss
18
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
25s
Bradford next
alegend
140
26s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
8972
27s
Hull
TF and the w
20
28s
Asiata is going to Hull
Vancouver Le
47
36s
RD 11 Catalan Dragons A
tad rhino
122
37s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
58304
37s
Gawry Hetherington
FlexWheeler
29
40s
IMG
PopTart
61
42s
London Broncos First Win Of 2024 Over Awful Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
43s
Am I missing something
FlexWheeler
71
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Support today
PopTart
9
TODAY
BBC
supercat
9
TODAY
Ticket for the final
PopTart
17
TODAY
London Broncos First Win Of 2024 Over Awful Hull FC
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Semi Final
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
"I didnt see that coming"
Hangerman2
7
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Sensational Second Forty Crushes Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leopards Change Their Spots
Leyther in n
5
TODAY
Luke Yates
WYSIWYG2
3
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hull KR As They Go Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Hull fc
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
Charnley signs
WYSIWYG2
2
TODAY
Tonights game v HKR
Big lads mat
64
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
London Broncos First Win Of 20..
273
Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhino..
315
Wigan Warriors Sensational Sec..
510
Leigh Leopards Destroy Salford..
779
Warrington Wolves Frustrate Hu..
825
Widnes Vikings Win Thriller Ag..
1576
Leigh Leopards and Castleford ..
1558
Simple Rhinos Victory Compound..
1225
Stunning Second Half Sees Wiga..
1327
Leeds Rhinos Battle Hard for W..
3122
Salford Red Devils Battle Hard..
2908
Leigh Leopards Masterclass Des..
3038
Saints Snatch Win With Lomax D..
3468
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
3722
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
3328


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!