Re: World-beating test and trace system : Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:02 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Local test and trace teams reaching 97.7% of contacts in England
the data shows local health protection teams are reaching far more close contacts of people who tested positive for coronavirus than those handled online or by call centres.
For cases handled by local health protection teams, 97.7% of contacts were reached and asked to self-isolate. For cases handled either online or by call centres, 57.6% of close contacts were reached.
Overall in the week ending October 7, a total of 216,627 people were identified as having come into contact with someone who tested positive and some 62.6% of contacts were reached.
This is the lowest weekly percentage since test and trace began, and is down from 69.5% in the previous week.

Just imagine how much local track and trace could have achieved given half of the money SERCO were given. Just imagine how much better the rate of Covid with and the economy might have been if we had used the last 6 months to develop a system to prevent the spread of Covid.

So are we saying 200k people a week need to self isolate for 14 days - so approx 400k at any one time?

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:28 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

So are we saying 200k people a week need to self isolate for 14 days - so approx 400k at any one time?

It's more than likely double that figure.

Bearing in mind that until/unless a vaccine is found, all of us are going to be infected at one time or another.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:51 pm  

Ovavoo wrote:

It's more than likely double that figure.

Bearing in mind that until/unless a vaccine is found, all of us are going to be infected at one time or another.

And everyone wonders why track and trace wont work - 200k a week - say it takes 30 minutes a call that's 100k hours of calls a week if you can contact each person quickly. That's a big number

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:14 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

PHE as it is now is a creation of the Conservatives following the 2010 Health and Social Care Act. It's previous incarnation the HPA was funded better and better able to respond to incidents as well a more capable in taking part in planning for incidents.

The 2010 Act drove a bulldozer through the health and social care system to create a byzantine system that is near unworkable, particularly under stresses like covid.

True. You can add to that the fact that the three main sites, Collindale, Manchester and Porton Down don't really get on with each other or coordinate particularly well.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:19 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

And everyone wonders why track and trace wont work - 200k a week - say it takes 30 minutes a call that's 100k hours of calls a week if you can contact each person quickly. That's a big number

It won't work now, but four months ago it would have, and we probably wouldn't now be looking at this dreadful scale of infection rise. It's a 35 million pound clusterf***. Not only did they set it up on an Excel spreadsheet (totally unbelievable) but they used the spreadsheet the wrong way around.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:48 pm  

DHM wrote:

It won't work now, but four months ago it would have, and we probably wouldn't now be looking at this dreadful scale of infection rise. It's a 35 million pound clusterf***. Not only did they set it up on an Excel spreadsheet (totally unbelievable) but they used the spreadsheet the wrong way around.

If you want to believe everything you read, that is. But what would The Sin bin without all the left wing bias.

Multiple threads, all about how useless the government are, not a single mention of the Labour 'plan' or Crignebins brother evoking hate and anti establishment gatherings....

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:20 pm  

WestEndThinker wrote:

If you want to believe everything you read, that is. But what would The Sin bin without all the left wing bias.

Multiple threads, all about how useless the government are, not a single mention of the Labour 'plan' or Crignebins brother evoking hate and anti establishment gatherings....

I'd completely missed the bit where Labour won the election and we had their record in power to judge them by.
Distraction and whataboutery - this is all the hard right have left to cling to.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:32 pm  

WestEndThinker wrote:

Crignebin

I think IR80 has a new username, folks.

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:18 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

I'd completely missed the bit where Labour won the election and we had their record in power to judge them by.
Distraction and whataboutery - this is all the hard right have left to cling to.

Well there’s probably a good reason why we we can’t judge Labours record in power - and in all honesty with the current balls up of Covid & Brexit you’d still hardly know they exist

Re: World-beating test and trace system : Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:28 pm  

I would suggest you watch the many PMQ’s between Johnson and Starmer or the debate between Johnson and Miliband this year and you may realise that they do exist and find it rather easy to make the PM look clueless and irrelevant. The polls also show more people support Labour than the Cons and that Starmer is a better leader.
I wonder how many of the new red wall Conservatives will be voted back in next time, judging by how twitchy they have become they are already beginning to wonder if Johnson is the right man
How many of those impacted by Covid wished that Labour was in power. The private companies making millions won’t of course because they can just carry on milking the tax payer for as much as possible with the full backing of the Cons especially one minister.