Absolutely spot on Chris, I will always be grateful for those Wembley wins but they were down to the other 'mafia' at the club, Prichard, Ellis, Minichello, Manu Michaels and Talanoa who 'persuaded' the rest of em (starting in the dressing rooms at Widnes) that they were here to win something, and that temporary broke Club Hull to get the right results. Incidental I keep in touch with the Gentle's and I remember Peter telling me just before he left to go back to Australia how it was.

Anyone who went to Huddersfield that fated night could work out that Club Hull decided that they didn't like what they were being told to do re-fitness, application and the game plan etc and decided they wanted one of 'their own' in charge and so it was! Big big mistake! Now with a proven experienced head coach and not a promoted assistant we have our best chance but he's only signed one player and inherited the rest and their culture. We have to stick with him because if he can't do it I wonder if anyone will. However, as I said, earlier in the week we have to be very careful this year, because the way we are playing is relegation form. At present looking back we look even worse than Warrington did last year at this time and they only just escaped the trap door. If it gets really dire I don't think our lot have the mental tenacity to pull it back.

so warrington have been doing undersized athletic forwards for years, and we've been bullied. a lot of our fans have lauded your pack, whenever you were on sky and satae and sao had a good game, except when you've been getting skittled with the same players.

i dont know if there's a right or wrong method, but i know we've got big bodies up front now and seem a million miles better than at any point since 2013. and that was smith recruiting props that aren't as big.

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HOWEVER

having big men doesnt mean sod all if they're not prepared to put a shift in.

I'd take someone with his aggression in a heartbeat, leaves nothing on the pitch, except blood! Played an entire half with a ruptured testicle! The dogs b""locks!!!

I hope you are right, it ruins the game. I know some teams are expert at milking the rule but the game was already fast enough, blatant holding down should still be penalised, but some players are wriggling and kicking before the tackle is completed. I'd like to see that penalised as much as the other way but it won't happen.

It's a lottery .

It needs to go for me, worst part about the rule imo is that there’s no time to question what it is you’ve done. You can’t correct things that way & it leaves teams guessing.