still think wellens is a top player, so much experience and great tackler

hardaker is 3rd choice full back for england now behind tomkins and ratchford.. Eden looks like being englands 5th choice at the moment

catalans have done good business getting webb to replace greenshields

what are salford doing to replace patten?

agree about eden having the potential, lets hope he fulfills it with us as doesnt go off the radar!

anyway nice to have a debate without the personal digs...

It looks like Leeds see hardaker as a fullback now. He's a decent player but completely different style of player to eden.
If you look at the game in aus, the fullback is often a star player- as influential as the half backs and one of the most dominant players in the squad-much as tomkins is- hardaker doesn't look like that sort of player- eden has the potential to be that type of player.

Wellens offers little in attack? I nearly spat my earl grey out over my laptop! I couldnt believe what I was reading

Grix is a better full back than Eden, Eden has been over hyped by Brown and now he doesn't even want him at Saints.

we still havent got someone who can come into the line like brett hodgson did with his great passes... eden and grix have tried but not to the same effect...i think eden has the potential to do this but we shall see with more game time...if he gets it, anderson might want grix at fullback next year or murphy

agree about wellens

girx and eden offer different things... brown said he wasnt going to take any giants players with him to saints so cant say he doesnt want him..unless we offered eden for gaskell!