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| just_browny:Smiffy27:karetaker:BOSS HOG:
The player currently keeping Charnley out of the Leigh 1st team is Keanan Brand.
A young player that we recruited from Widnes, but was released to Leigh on a freebie by Wire, without being given a proper chance.
Leigh are off loading Charnley now and if we sign him, it illustrates the incompetence of the Wire succession plan for our team.
And he has scored hat trick tonight We need Mystic Meg on the staff. Just at looking back at who we had around at the time ... you just can't keep 'em all. Lineham, Charnley, Ashton, Wrench & the excitable Mamo. Then they get lent out and rarely come back. Took his tries well though v Leeds. That would make sense... if he had come through as our youth player. But we signed Brand from Widnes, gave him three games and sacked him off. I'm seen as a happy clapper on here, but one thing I am ashamed of is how many players we let go and then see them go on to better things at other clubs. Remember our coaching staff see these guys in training day after day - the judgment of potential needs to be far better. Usually if the team as a whole does not perform I believe the youngsters are the ones used as scapegoats by the coaching team, could be wrong but that’s my belief. Like you say they often move on to other clubs and do well. We just need to give them more chances.
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| Jenna last night mentioned the possibility of the quota change, we all new it was coming, BUT like she said last night some clubs are already acting like it's definately increasing. Hull being one with the Liam knight re-signing, but unless the clubs already know it's changing, if it doesn't, it's gonna create some really awkward situations.
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| just_browny:Wires71:just_browny:morleys_deckchair:
I dont think Williams has ever given us value for money.
I'm not even slightly bothered by him leaving. He goes down as just another bad decision in the failed 'galactico' recruitment strategy of our club.
Hopefully we will start to move away from that desperate model now.
That's an interesting observation. Hopefully our galactico strategy is over now and we will stick with the model of signing hungry 'project' players who won't break the bank like Roderick Tai, Dan Russell and Oli Leyland. That's an approach that gets a far warmer reception among Wire fans. I guess the author was hoping for those players that fit between those polar opposites. But the level of debate on here means we have to have this facile "false dilemma" between galactico and basement, bargain bucket players like you have mentioned. Plenty of other clubs make sound signings without breaking the bank. One of them is currently top of the league. Hull KR spend the same money as we do (and have far fewer of their own youth products in the team). Do you think Waerea-Hargreaves is on £25k but came over for the East Hull air? I don't think we've had a 'galacticos' approach for years. If anything I think we went from a really successful era of recruitment where we picked up players like Ashton and Harrison to more of a bargain basement approach this year which has cost us dearly. We have 3 marquee players. I wonder how many other clubs have 3. We don't know how much Hull KR spend as the wage bill is different from the salary cap. Successful period of recruitment? Im not going to list the plethora of poor players we also signed around the time we signed Ashton and Harrison.
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| Yes we currently have three Marquee. Players BUT one of them is Toby King which is a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if his new deal will still mean that he will Marquee Player for next season too?
Do any posters on here have any information about this?
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| Wires71:just_browny:Wires71:just_browny:morleys_deckchair:
I dont think Williams has ever given us value for money.
I'm not even slightly bothered by him leaving. He goes down as just another bad decision in the failed 'galactico' recruitment strategy of our club.
Hopefully we will start to move away from that desperate model now.
That's an interesting observation. Hopefully our galactico strategy is over now and we will stick with the model of signing hungry 'project' players who won't break the bank like Roderick Tai, Dan Russell and Oli Leyland. That's an approach that gets a far warmer reception among Wire fans. I guess the author was hoping for those players that fit between those polar opposites. But the level of debate on here means we have to have this facile "false dilemma" between galactico and basement, bargain bucket players like you have mentioned. Plenty of other clubs make sound signings without breaking the bank. One of them is currently top of the league. Hull KR spend the same money as we do (and have far fewer of their own youth products in the team). Do you think Waerea-Hargreaves is on £25k but came over for the East Hull air? I don't think we've had a 'galacticos' approach for years. If anything I think we went from a really successful era of recruitment where we picked up players like Ashton and Harrison to more of a bargain basement approach this year which has cost us dearly. We have 3 marquee players. I wonder how many other clubs have 3. We don't know how much Hull KR spend as the wage bill is different from the salary cap. Successful period of recruitment? Im not going to list the plethora of poor players we also signed around the time we signed Ashton and Harrison. I'll rescind the word 'era'; I should really have said 'model' as we did seem to be good at a time at getting early dibs on good Championship talent. You're right that we signed plenty of dross.
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| The Ashton signing was right under Wigan's nose. Ashton was young championship player of the year at the time. I think Wigan were in for him but Karl tells a story of him pressuring the Swinton chairman for a decision at the same time Wigan were involved in a league game and, as such, were incommunicado.
Ashton could have multiple GF, a CC and WCC medals by now. I hope he doesn't regret joining us.
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