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He would go with well wishes, should he continue as we are currently progressing. Results this year have been up and down but I still have this feeling that if we can get close to our best team out on the field we can compete with the best. I’ll forever be grateful for turning this club around, or contributing towards it, after Powell’s hatchet job.
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Conversely, Sam was open and honest at the point of signing the extension last year and had continued to be open and honest, which can shape our long term planning. We should have an idea already who’s next in for 2027 and actually have an idea of what recruitment will look like for that. It’s excellent succession planning, and we have a ticking clock on this group, and Sam, to deliver something.
If he gets this job, I have concerns that he could cherry pick some of our players, including starlets like Lindop and Taylor-Wray. I am aware that they are signed-up with Wire contractually, but the contracts don`t seem to work in the clubs` favour when a player is determined to leave. But any NRL club could do that with any of our players. But you are right about contracts - they only work one way in practice. Yes, they could and probably do. The difference is that Burgess has a personal relationship with our players and would have one and a half seasons of daily contact to persuade them to move to the NRL with him. | | | |
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Conversely, Sam was open and honest at the point of signing the extension last year and had continued to be open and honest, which can shape our long term planning. We should have an idea already who’s next in for 2027 and actually have an idea of what recruitment will look like for that. It’s excellent succession planning, and we have a ticking clock on this group, and Sam, to deliver something.
If he gets this job, I have concerns that he could cherry pick some of our players, including starlets like Lindop and Taylor-Wray. I am aware that they are signed-up with Wire contractually, but the contracts don`t seem to work in the clubs` favour when a player is determined to leave. But any NRL club could do that with any of our players. But you are right about contracts - they only work one way in practice. Yes, they could and probably do. The difference is that Burgess has a personal relationship with our players and would have one and a half seasons of daily contact to persuade them to move to the NRL with him. Fair point, but I would counter that those minded to go to the NRL with Sam, would likely be tempted to go to the NRL anyway if the opportunity arose. But yes I agree this can only increase, not decrease, the risk. Let's just make sure our contracted players have rather large transfer fees attached. | | |
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Conversely, Sam was open and honest at the point of signing the extension last year and had continued to be open and honest, which can shape our long term planning. We should have an idea already who’s next in for 2027 and actually have an idea of what recruitment will look like for that. It’s excellent succession planning, and we have a ticking clock on this group, and Sam, to deliver something.
Both Sam and Brad Arthur openly talking about their next job in 18 months time is unedifying in my view. Disrespectful to the clubs. Sure, have the conversations - but why in public? Maybe their agents are ensuring their names are in the fray, keeping them in the picture and relevant. Sam speaking out after Brad getting his elbows out first earlier in the week. It's no coincidence. We don't have players talking like this. Imagine Danny Walker saying "well I've got a job to do at Warrington, but then in 2027 I hope to be going on to bigger and better things at Wigan". It would be unacceptable. Sam won't be getting the coaching role at Perth based on coaching credentials or achievements so no pressure on him to deliver anything with us - which is fortunate for him. His well backed club with 3 marquee players is going to be 9th in the league and way, way off the pace. Sure we will stick with Sam - but the timing is all to suit him, not our club. He will be signing players that another coach will have to work with when he's gone. What if we continue our nose dive? the club will think, well he's going end of 2026 anyway and another 3 year plan to kick off in 2027. Also releasing this PR on the eve of the Magic Weekend with a busted up squad about to be annihilated by Wigan. No, I'm annoyed by this. i suppose the big difference is Brad Arthur only extended for 1 season after only initially committing to part of last season, and has made no secret of his intention to go back to Oz with Sam, i dont think there is any secret he plans to go back to Oz, but equally i agree talking whilst under contract isnt an ideal situation on the flip side, and there was a thread on here a couple of weeks ago about him, is he actually achieving as a coach? Whilst there is no doubt he was an incredible player, and has an aura about him. As a coach, there is only so far that the aura will get you. If you dont / cant manage players or have the tactical nous, then he may not succeed here or in Oz, and at the minute does his time here merit a head coach role in Oz, i from an outsiders perspective would say no, but you guys are better placed to comment | | |
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On the example of Walker leaving, I wouldn’t mind that if it was the case (to the NRL though, not Wigan.) if he’s leaving, and we know he’s leaving, we can use that cap money and get in the front of the queue for replacements. If he kept us guessing and we had to keep a significant portion of cap free just incase he signed, ultimately to walk short notice, we’d be in trouble. It’s like when Briers left in 2013, we couldn’t look in advance to recruit for such an important role, and ultimately it set us back years.
We can’t afford to go into 2026 without a coach locked in. We have the May timeline to lock in players for 2027 before others can approach, and we need the incoming coach to have a read on who they want/don’t. Powell was given that opportunity, shipped out the ones he didn’t want and had the chance to bring in his people to get to work on day 1. He completely butchered it, but the concept was right.
We’ve all known for a while now that Sam wants to go to the NRL. To his credit, he has given us a timeline. It’s for us to get our house in order now and work out the replacement.
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On the example of Walker leaving, I wouldn’t mind that if it was the case (to the NRL though, not Wigan.) if he’s leaving, and we know he’s leaving, we can use that cap money and get in the front of the queue for replacements. If he kept us guessing and we had to keep a significant portion of cap free just incase he signed, ultimately to walk short notice, we’d be in trouble. It’s like when Briers left in 2013, we couldn’t look in advance to recruit for such an important role, and ultimately it set us back years.
We can’t afford to go into 2026 without a coach locked in. We have the May timeline to lock in players for 2027 before others can approach, and we need the incoming coach to have a read on who they want/don’t. Powell was given that opportunity, shipped out the ones he didn’t want and had the chance to bring in his people to get to work on day 1. He completely butchered it, but the concept was right.
We’ve all known for a while now that Sam wants to go to the NRL. To his credit, he has given us a timeline. It’s for us to get our house in order now and work out the replacement.
Good points. But why does this all have to be conducted in public? | | | |
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