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| Quote Wires71="Wires71"https://www.nrl.com/watch/news/png-pms-xiii-v-australia-pms-xiii2-1736928/
Is he #11 at 2:14 and 2:59 ?
Get him on the tackle bags
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Just watched this myself and wasnt impressed, couldnt tackle a good dinner from that looking.
Anyway i have come to the conclusion, you can have 13 world class players on the field but if the ref gives a dodgy decision its game over. Still annoyed with the semi!
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| I got up early to watch Russell play in those PNG tests last year. It did not take long to realise he was nowhere near the level of player we should be entertaining. I wonder how much our board have had to pay out in paying off sub-standard players over the years? Far more than it would cost to get a competent CEO/recruitment specialist.
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| Wires71ratticusfinch:
I got up early to watch Russell play in those PNG tests last year. It did not take long to realise he was nowhere near the level of player we should be entertaining. I wonder how much our board have had to pay out in paying off sub-standard players over the years? Far more than it would cost to get a competent CEO/recruitment specialist.
It's a familiar tale. I watched Luther Burrell's Wire debut away to London, and I could quickly tell that he had no chance of making it in RL. He actually looked like he was anxious about the ball coming to him. Where was the due diligence on that recruitment? Yes, he was a cheap gamble, but throwing him into the team almost as an experiment just made us look unprofessional. I wonder how some of these woeful recruitment decisions are made, and who is responsible for them. As others have said, there are numerous such examples and a lack of accountability.
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Wires71ratticusfinch:
I got up early to watch Russell play in those PNG tests last year. It did not take long to realise he was nowhere near the level of player we should be entertaining. I wonder how much our board have had to pay out in paying off sub-standard players over the years? Far more than it would cost to get a competent CEO/recruitment specialist.
I was battered on here, by the usual suspects, when I questioned the recruitment process for the Director Of Rugby position (for which recruitment and retention would naturally reside). I outlined the experience skill set and background that I would be looking for inviting serious applicants from the UK and Australia. I wanted someone with a strong character, international reach and profile, who had experienced the game at the highest level, and who held respect in the game and would be able to sell the club and it's ambitions. I was worried we would make a classic "jobs for the boys" appointment taking the simplest path. In the end we recruited a loyal servant who had never been in a pro RL environment other than Warrington. But it's not his fault, I suspect Chambers has very little remit in real life and effectively does as he is told. Remember after Powell, Middleton saying that never again would the board cede so much power again (i.e. it was all Powell's fault *). The recruitment is likely to be collectively agreed by the board - that's why there is no head to roll! I bet recruitment is a mixed bag of Simon Moran's / Stuart Middleton's chance meetings with agents, whims, vanity projects (Johns/Burrell/Inglis/Johnson), Sam's contacts/former team mates (Musgrove), in house research, or implosion of SL clubs leading to exodus of players and inbound calls from agents touting their available player (Sneyd/Stone), and a fair few panic signings. I would love to think that there was a process of defining club playing style/ethos/values first followed by identification and qualification of prospective players to match it. But there isn't based on the evidence we see. Sadly, as well as recruiting sub-standard players, we also manage to recruit a good number of players with questionable character and behaviour to add to the mix. (McGuire / Musgrove etc). However, the club owners can run the club in exactly the way they want. We can only choose whether to pay for season tickets or merchandise which, to be fair, they seem to be quite animated about. * https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/warrington-chairman-didnt-like-how-people-were-treated-under-daryl-powell-79578
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Wires71ratticusfinch:
I got up early to watch Russell play in those PNG tests last year. It did not take long to realise he was nowhere near the level of player we should be entertaining. I wonder how much our board have had to pay out in paying off sub-standard players over the years? Far more than it would cost to get a competent CEO/recruitment specialist.
I was battered on here, by the usual suspects, when I questioned the recruitment process for the Director Of Rugby position (for which recruitment and retention would naturally reside). I outlined the experience skill set and background that I would be looking for inviting serious applicants from the UK and Australia. I wanted someone with a strong character, international reach and profile, who had experienced the game at the highest level, and who held respect in the game and would be able to sell the club and it's ambitions. I was worried we would make a classic "jobs for the boys" appointment taking the simplest path. In the end we recruited a loyal servant who had never been in a pro RL environment other than Warrington. But it's not his fault, I suspect Chambers has very little remit in real life and effectively does as he is told. Remember after Powell, Middleton saying that never again would the board cede so much power again (i.e. it was all Powell's fault *). The recruitment is likely to be collectively agreed by the board - that's why there is no head to roll! I bet recruitment is a mixed bag of Simon Moran's / Stuart Middleton's chance meetings with agents, whims, vanity projects (Johns/Burrell/Inglis/Johnson), Sam's contacts/former team mates (Musgrove), in house research, or implosion of SL clubs leading to exodus of players and inbound calls from agents touting their available player (Sneyd/Stone), and a fair few panic signings. I would love to think that there was a process of defining club playing style/ethos/values first followed by identification and qualification of prospective players to match it. But there isn't based on the evidence we see. Sadly, as well as recruiting sub-standard players, we also manage to recruit a good number of players with questionable character and behaviour to add to the mix. (McGuire / Musgrove etc). However, the club owners can run the club in exactly the way they want. We can only choose whether to pay for season tickets or merchandise which, to be fair, they seem to be quite animated about. * https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/warrington-chairman-didnt-like-how-people-were-treated-under-daryl-powell-79578
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| There is no doubt that we've bought our fair share of duffers. No matter who leads on recruitment you would have thought that others (in the club) would have looked at videos etc. of the likely signing. A new signing ought to need joint approval. I too watched have watched players prior to their arrival & thought I must be missing something, he's not involved, why have we chosen him? etc.
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| I heard a rumour (probably guff) that often KFP sounds out The Mole about potential recruits and then ignores any advice. As I say highly dubious intelligence….but you couldn’t rule it out considering our track record.
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