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| You'd need limits on homegrown exemptions to stop clubs stockpiling players, and you'd have to allow for the fact that some clubs have much smaller natural catchments than others. We sign plenty of youngsters from other clubs' catchments as juniors, as do other clubs. I'm not sure its fair to count a kid from Cas as a Leeds product for cap purposes.
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| There's no point in increasing the cap if the clubs haven't got the money to spend anyway.
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| Who are we definitely losing next season?
Sutcliffe to Hull FC I know,
Tetevano?
Are we likely to keep hold of Zak / Bentley?
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| Quote Once were Loiners="Once were Loiners"You'd need limits on homegrown exemptions to stop clubs stockpiling players, and you'd have to allow for the fact that some clubs have much smaller natural catchments than others. We sign plenty of youngsters from other clubs' catchments as juniors, as do other clubs. I'm not sure its fair to count a kid from Cas as a Leeds product for cap purposes.'"
No easy answers are there? My hope that a significant increase or abolishment of the cap would A) Make the sport more appealing to young players who are now being lost to the sport B) Help keep the best English players in England C) Attract a bit more sparkle from the NRL. I appreciate there are down sides to all this but the cap as it is just strangling the potential for any growth in the sport. It's brought about a fairer competition, but you only have to read the posts of many on here to get a view on what it has done for the game as a product.
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| Well done Saints. Terrific team and the benchmark. Proud of the boys, did us proud. Sezer missing was definitely felt especially close to the saints line, same with Newman and Fusi. Saints pack was just too big for ours plus lomax was class. Thought Austin played well and Zak.
Something good to build on though for us, we’re back contesting the big one. Be good to see where Smith can take us with a full pre season and further additions
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| The salary cap has levelled the sport down, restricted wages in a way that possibly is illegal, and has meant we have kept clubs who bring very little to the table at levels of player expenditure that they cannot meet.
The idea was to level out the competition upwards by sharing out the better players, well it hasn’t worked and needs a rethink. Perhaps a better way to stop clubs going bankrupt would be to fix the cap at a % of turnover which should incentivise the clubs to increase turnover. There should of course be other rules around developing players etc. but that seems a better direction to go in.
Oh and 5 year Franchising should be back on the table, it’s the only way we can possibly grow the game.
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| It will be interesting to see what Rohan Smith can do with a full pre season.
We are just too physical (even without Walmsley). Our ball movement was crisp and runs were strong. We have missed Dodd in our attack. With him on the pitch I think we win last nights game by more points. But Leeds have injuries too to be fair.
I have reservations over a few Leeds players. Players like Smith, Leeming, Thompson, Gannon have nice moments but sometimes I question whether they are even super league standard players. I thought Austin has been great for you in this run of wins.
Anyway, see you next season folks. I hope Smith continues to improve you guys. A strong Leeds team can only be a good thing for the game.
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| Quote batleyrhino="batleyrhino"The salary cap has levelled the sport down, restricted wages in a way that possibly is illegal, and has meant we have kept clubs who bring very little to the table at levels of player expenditure that they cannot meet.
The idea was to level out the competition upwards by sharing out the better players, well it hasn’t worked and needs a rethink. Perhaps a better way to stop clubs going bankrupt would be to fix the cap at a % of turnover which should incentivise the clubs to increase turnover. There should of course be other rules around developing players etc. but that seems a better direction to go in.
Oh and 5 year Franchising should be back on the table, it’s the only way we can possibly grow the game.'"
It’s OK proposing ideas which would clearly benefit Leeds but we need to consider the wider picture. Leeds have had plenty of ability to build a better side (academy development, marquee signings) but we have just got our recruitment consistently wrong for years.
For me we could and should be doing better to build a higher quality team under the existing rules. As for the wider sport: the problem isn’t the salary cap as much as the general financial weakness of the sport.
I don’t see how introducing more disparity between the clubs will help. We’re not Premier League with a line of billionaires looking to buy RL clubs as trophies.
NRL has salary cap and their product is outstanding.
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| Quote FlyingScottyDonald="FlyingScottyDonald"Who are we definitely losing next season?
Sutcliffe to Hull FC I know,
Tetevano?
Are we likely to keep hold of Zak / Bentley?'"
Thompson’s going isn’t he, and Briscoe?
Zak has been instrumental in our form turnaround and I thought he was very good yesterday.
Prior going round again would be a mistake. We need to exit Tetevano too. He just doesn’t do enough to earn his salary and never has.
We need to bring in one or two more high quality players too.
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| A salary cap thats twice the SL cap.
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| So St Helens, Wigan, Warrington, Leeds, Catalans, Hull FC should all have to spend less than they could on playing squads so (example) poor old Wakefield can still have a very small outside chance of success?
The money in the NRL is so much bigger it’s impossible to compare to SL. We lose some of our better players over there and they are average in that competition. We have to do things differently.
First 5 years of franchises should be to existing SL teams but take the shackles off them and make them work to grow their income to fund better players young or mature.
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| Was pretty confident at half time, then that woeful 4 man attempt on Hurrell happened...Cant defend like that in Grand Finals...Only seen it once and was fair cut but from memory Leeming has got to stop that ball getting to ground. Been critical of Bently this season but thought he was brilliant last night, Rohans really turned the lad around.
Other than that, proud of the squad and coaching team, been an unbelievable turnaround, looking forward to the future more than i have for quite a while.
Congratulations to Saints (and the RFL), but seriously, the best team in the comp won the comp, cant take it away from them, quality side.
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