[Jemmo]

Re: Restaurant Access : Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:32 am  

Steady with the language and name calling please guys

[Wanderer]

Re: Restaurant Access : Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:39 pm  

Double Movement wrote:

There is clearly a lot of underlying bad feeling towards to club from 'lost fans' who feel disenfranchised. For various reasons, the club and the sport have not been able to keep everybody on board. This saddens me as it would be great if we could all be part of the same family as we crave success for the Dons.

Club Doncaster has not been able to unite the fans. Promises not being met (five year plan), an apparent lack of ambition/poor decision-making (unable to get out of the bottom league) and poor communications between the club and fans are all part of the problem (where are the minutes of the meetings between the fans' representatives and the club?).

I've just re-read my post listing my reasons for making the 2021 season my last (posted in August 2021) and sadly, I can't see that anything has changed which would entice me back.

On the pitch ... the Club continues to miss opportunity after opportunity to get out of League One (despite historical public statements about where the Club should be by now).

Off the pitch ... The disconnect between 'the Club' and supporters has clearly not been resolved nor has the incredibly poor communications.

The Advisory Group which replaced the Fans Panel is now 2 supporters (as opposed to the previous 10 or so) along with 6 Club 'representatives'. People may draw their own conclusions as to why such a numerical swing to the supporters being just 25% of regular attendees.

I said at the time that I hoped that the Club and it's CEO would get to grips with supporter-raised issues and concerns but so far it would seem sadly not to be the case.

Re: Restaurant Access : Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:22 pm  

Wanderer wrote:

The Advisory Group which replaced the Fans Panel is now 2 supporters (as opposed to the previous 10 or so) along with 6 Club 'representatives'. People may draw their own conclusions as to why such a numerical swing to the supporters being just 25% of regular attendees.

I said at the time that I hoped that the Club and it's CEO would get to grips with supporter-raised issues and concerns but so far it would seem sadly not to be the case.

My time on the Fans Panel ended at the same time as Wanderer. Does anyone know the reasons why there are now only two supporters on the Advisory Group? Do we know who they are?

Has the post of Supporters Liaison Officer (SLO) been scrapped? Barry Brown and Carol Green were previous holders of the post. Barry used to do an excellent job. Carol had ill health. I've not seen her at any matches for a while.

Re: Restaurant Access : Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:26 pm  

The new groups are without doubt handpicked nodders and happy clappers who are sent out to tell us realists that all is well and we shouldn't question authority, how can any supporter of the dons not see we're a stagnant, poorly run club who have resisded in the bottom division for 6 years and not want to do anything about it? Instead we have foot soldiers handing out flowers dancing outside the keepmoat shouting hari khrisna everything is brilliant! (I might have made that last bit up)

Re: Restaurant Access : Thu Jan 19, 2023 4:27 pm  

There are some supporters who are more favoured by the club (IMHO) in terms of having an inside view on this all of these seem to be part of the "happy clappers" club....Its pointless to post anything negative on the Facebook side now as there are to many who will decry anything that doesn't match the positive view and it usually decends into personal attacks and questioning peoples validity to have an opinion - Hence the rule change here and there.

Every single person who posts on either site is entitled to their opinion, you don't have to like it or agree with it but they should have the freedom to say what they want especially when its well within the rules of sites.

Re: Restaurant Access : Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:58 am  

It's a very weird set up akin to some kind of cult, just happy to give over their hard earned cash, accept 6 years of broken promises and spread the message of positivity from above! Only when you have accepted this challenge are you awarded the superfan status.

[Jemmo]

Re: Restaurant Access : Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:48 am  

I went to some of the supporters advisory meetings when they were online, my experience of them was there was a lot of people there who never spoke. It was just the same 2 or 3 that made objections or questioned things every time so those are the ones that are still going. I struggle to attend them now they are back as face to face (I already spend a disproportionate amount of my time filling in the social media short falls of the club, something which I and the members on the group have raised several times). I have seen the members who go now constantly questioning and disagreeing with things the club do (most noticeably; player updates, merchandise, social media, club/supporter interaction), they also ask every question that is put to them to ask by supporters. They can't however force the club to agree with them (the player update thing for example has been raised so many times, it's obviously a fight they can't win) or report back anything other than the answer given or there'd be no point in asking. All the notes from the supporters questions are posted now, again the official club minutes are their domain and after trying to get them posted in a more timely seemed to be going nowhere it was decided to post the question answers more more quickly.

Essentially it's advisory, they have to pick their battles, and they do, (as I do when I get chance to have a chat with Carl etc) but there is no guarantee any of them can be won. If it got to a stage where everything was knocked back then there would be no point in it existing at all, but then we'd lose our only connection at all. It's not at that stage.

On the specifics of the restaurant thing, I can't remember it even being raise before it was announced.

Re: Restaurant Access : Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:20 am  

Similarities with club doncaster and the Conservative party then, it's plain to see where things are going wrong but once you question them fingers go in the ears and they go la la la.

Re: Restaurant Access : Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:58 am  

Jemmo wrote:

IOn the specifics of the restaurant thing, I can't remember it even being raise before it was announced.

Thanks for update, Jemmo.

The is similar to the issues I found when I was part of the group. Decisions are made by the club before consulting the fans. The change of shirt colour was a classic example. The consultation should come before a decision is made, not after it.

The fans in the group are then expected to go out and sell what the club have decided even though they might not have been part of the process in deciding it and may not agree with it.

Re: Restaurant Access : Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:53 pm  

Some good points of view raised on this topic. not that it will matter to the club. The decision to capitalise on the Exec bar area has been made and I suspect that the decision will remain. The proof of this seasons pudding will be the statement regarding automatic promotion and if at all that is achievable.

If not then the comfort factor at the top of the club will still remain IMO and that gents is unforgiveable.