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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 6:34 am  
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We have James Clark to thank for Satae leaving. Offered him less money than what he is on now and only came back with an improved offer after Catalan had offered him a contract there.
Swift definitely on his way too.


Didnt Smith say hes in charge of all that?
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 6:51 am  
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We have James Clark to thank for Satae leaving. Offered him less money than what he is on now and only came back with an improved offer after Catalan had offered him a contract there.
Swift definitely on his way too.


What money is Satae on?

Hand on heart do we think he is earning that money?

Was he the only one offered reduced terms?
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 6:56 am  
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What money is Satae on?

Hand on heart do we think he is earning that money?

Was he the only one offered reduced terms?


I have no idea what money he is on.Just been told that he was offered reduced terms.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 7:08 am  
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We have James Clark to thank for Satae leaving. Offered him less money than what he is on now and only came back with an improved offer after Catalan had offered him a contract there.
Swift definitely on his way too.


The bloke can do no good. If we sign a superstar. WOW, Tony Smith is fantastic as recruitment. Our recruitment goes wrong and it’s James Clark’s fault.

TS had made it clear that he has sole control over recruitment and retention. The reality is, if Satae wanted to stay he would’ve negotiated to get the contract he wanted here
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 7:11 am  
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I have no idea what money he is on.Just been told that he was offered reduced terms.


So you have nothing to back up your claim apart from saying that you'be been told it?
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 7:32 am  
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RockNRolla wrote:
We have James Clark to thank for Satae leaving. Offered him less money than what he is on now and only came back with an improved offer after Catalan had offered him a contract there.
Swift definitely on his way too.


The bloke can do no good. If we sign a superstar. WOW, Tony Smith is fantastic as recruitment. Our recruitment goes wrong and it’s James Clark’s fault.

TS had made it clear that he has sole control over recruitment and retention. The reality is, if Satae wanted to stay he would’ve negotiated to get the contract he wanted here


My take on this for what its worth is that TS said when he came in and a few time since, that part of his job and focus is/was to get better value for the Cap that's being spent. If as has been alluded that the club offered Satae a reduced deal then I would imagine this would have been on the instructions of TS based on what he has seen at first hand in training etc.
Satae on his day is one of the top front rowers in SL going forward we'd all agree on that but if we are totally honest does he work hard enough plus he is very prone to defensive deficiencies which have hurt us. If TS put a value on Satae which seems likely when he spoke about the Satae situation then I'll back his judgement as his knowledge is far greater than mine.

We have almost all said for the past few seasons that if we are spending the full cap then its been mismanaged with over inflated deals, so we can't then criticise when the club are actively addressing the issues to rectify them. Yes it might mean we lose some players we'd rather not but if it improves the squad in the long term (which is what the aim is) then surely thats a good thing?

I see Matthew Shaw reporting that Leeds have spoken to Lachlan Fitzgibbon.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 8:11 am  
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We have James Clark to thank for Satae leaving. Offered him less money than what he is on now and only came back with an improved offer after Catalan had offered him a contract there.
Swift definitely on his way too.


I'm OK with this. Said we shouldn't get dragged into a bidding war for him. Here is your offer, take it or leave it.

It's seemed like our cap has been bent out if shape fir a while now.

Shame to lose Swift, he's been a good buy for us.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 8:37 am  
Satae isn't worth big money, does about 9 drives for most games, then has one wow on game every 5 games or so.

How many games this season has been great, 2 maybe?
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 8:38 am  
Really disappointed about Swift, but not a lot we can do if he wants to move closer to home, we can't compete with RU money either.
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Re: Shopping list for 2024 : Tue May 30, 2023 8:56 am  
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Really disappointed about Swift, but not a lot we can do if he wants to move closer to home, we can't compete with RU money either.


Swift will be a big loss as his work rate on and off the ball is exemplary but we can't compete if he wants to move back to Lancashire.

I'd be surprised if many RU teams are or will be splashing the cash considering the financial state of the sport currently.
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