FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Good result for Fev
FIL 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4303
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 18 200915 years50th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 20:0227th Mar 24 15:36LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Riding the Trinity rollercoaster !!
Signature
M.I.B. ??....nope - M.I.R.W.B !!!

Sent from my steam-powered Sinclair ZX81.

Re: Good result for Fev : Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:19 am  
Pretty much spot on there, Horseman...that's been our main issue with Lino.
His best game by far was away at Warrington last year (think it was the cup game ??), when he won us the game almost single-handedly, but unfortunately that appears to have been a one-off as he doesn't do that often enough. Hopefully him and Smith can bring out the best in each other but it depends when and where Smith gets to play as Gaskell looks like being our first choice 6 so far :THINK: :THINK:
jonh 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner20111No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 27 200321 years45th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 00:0127th Mar 24 19:43LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
educating League Freak on all things rugby league
Signature
Unofficially the most boring poster on Cherry and White.

Re: Good result for Fev : Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:55 am  
FIL wrote:
Pretty much spot on there, Horseman...that's been our main issue with Lino.
His best game by far was away at Warrington last year (think it was the cup game ??), when he won us the game almost single-handedly, but unfortunately that appears to have been a one-off as he doesn't do that often enough. Hopefully him and Smith can bring out the best in each other but it depends when and where Smith gets to play as Gaskell looks like being our first choice 6 so far :THINK: :THINK:


For me the main issue with Lino happened the day we signed him.

The coaches at the time lauded him as finally the missing piece of the jigsaw in our halves that we had failed to fill since Liam Finn joined us.

Miller needed an organiser so he could play his game. Brough didn’t really work out and Lino is then hailed as the play making organising play in a dinner suit half back we had in Finn, who would sit in the pocket, move us round the field and let Milky play the off the cuff exciting attacking rugby off those foundations.

If you saw Lino in his time in the NRL he was a strike half too, not an organiser/playmaker. That is still what he is and why he is maybe inconsistent as he has been playing with another half who does the same job and the partnership didn’t bring the best out of each other.

Gaskill is a very intelligent player and more of a playmaker these days and I’m hoping with him taking on the responsibility of moving the team around the field Lino can consistently play as the strike half which is his natural game and we will see him at his best more often.

I think similarly Miller will go well at Cas playing along side Widdop who will shoulder the midfield general responsibilities leaving him to focus on the strike role.
Last edited by jonh on Tue Jan 31, 2023 2:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
FIL 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4303
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 18 200915 years50th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 20:0227th Mar 24 15:36LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Riding the Trinity rollercoaster !!
Signature
M.I.B. ??....nope - M.I.R.W.B !!!

Sent from my steam-powered Sinclair ZX81.

Re: Good result for Fev : Tue Jan 31, 2023 1:28 pm  
Hard to disagree with any of that, Jonh :thumb:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman35915
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 13 200419 years15th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 19:2826th Mar 24 20:58LINK
Milestone Posts
30000
40000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Poodle Power!
Signature
SUPPORT SWAG...

Re: Good result for Fev : Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:13 pm  
Well FIL and Jonh, I'll have a go at disagreeing, because I think you're both wrong. Not so much about Lino, I tend to agree there, but certainly regarding Cas.

Widdop is where Broughy was when we signed him, only difference is Broughy always had more heart than Widdop.

Miller hs never regained his pace but he's still a decent player, but combined with Widdop that is one slow HB partnership by anyones standards. True Fin was slow but we are not Cas, Classy Cas as they love to call themselves play a fast game, and that team is no longer fast. Lino and Smith are far quicker, even Gaskell is faster than Widdop, and imho that will count. Added to that McShane is also now older and slower, though pace was not the cornerstone of his game.

The current Cas team is IMHO slower than the Powell model in certain key areas, if we can't exploit that then shame on us.

So yes Miller will do ok, but only if Widdop does, with Richardson out, Trueman gone, they are thin on the ground for alternative.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Moderator20140
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 04 200815 years5th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 23:4627th Mar 24 23:46LINK
Milestone Posts
20000
25000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
wakefield
Signature
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
Moderator

Re: Good result for Fev : Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:05 pm  
Widdop isn't fast but im sure he isn't as slow as you think. I guess we'll see.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner4767
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 04 200321 years124th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 07:4025th Mar 24 15:35LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Signature
[IMG]//i50.tinypic.com/a59ff5.gif[/IMG]

Re: Good result for Fev : Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:17 pm  
vastman wrote:
Well FIL and Jonh, I'll have a go at disagreeing, because I think you're both wrong. Not so much about Lino, I tend to agree there, but certainly regarding Cas.

Widdop is where Broughy was when we signed him, only difference is Broughy always had more heart than Widdop.

Miller hs never regained his pace but he's still a decent player, but combined with Widdop that is one slow HB partnership by anyones standards. True Fin was slow but we are not Cas, Classy Cas as they love to call themselves play a fast game, and that team is no longer fast. Lino and Smith are far quicker, even Gaskell is faster than Widdop, and imho that will count. Added to that McShane is also now older and slower, though pace was not the cornerstone of his game.

The current Cas team is IMHO slower than the Powell model in certain key areas, if we can't exploit that then shame on us.

So yes Miller will do ok, but only if Widdop does, with Richardson out, Trueman gone, they are thin on the ground for alternative.


They really are fragile at HB should either of these get injured. I honestly think they will struggle
FIL 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4303
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 18 200915 years50th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 20:0227th Mar 24 15:36LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Riding the Trinity rollercoaster !!
Signature
M.I.B. ??....nope - M.I.R.W.B !!!

Sent from my steam-powered Sinclair ZX81.

Re: Good result for Fev : Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:19 pm  
vastman wrote:
Well FIL and Jonh, I'll have a go at disagreeing, because I think you're both wrong. Not so much about Lino, I tend to agree there, but certainly regarding Cas.

Widdop is where Broughy was when we signed him, only difference is Broughy always had more heart than Widdop.

Miller hs never regained his pace but he's still a decent player, but combined with Widdop that is one slow HB partnership by anyones standards. True Fin was slow but we are not Cas, Classy Cas as they love to call themselves play a fast game, and that team is no longer fast. Lino and Smith are far quicker, even Gaskell is faster than Widdop, and imho that will count. Added to that McShane is also now older and slower, though pace was not the cornerstone of his game.

The current Cas team is IMHO slower than the Powell model in certain key areas, if we can't exploit that then shame on us.

So yes Miller will do ok, but only if Widdop does, with Richardson out, Trueman gone, they are thin on the ground for alternative.

I was more agreeing regarding Lino TBH (although TBF I didn't actually state that).
Widdop is definitely not the player he was 5 years ago and obviously I hope that our half-backs out perform both him and Miller, but time will tell I guess :thumb:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player745
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 06 20222 years115th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 04:4026th Mar 24 03:33LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Good result for Fev : Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:36 am  
I don’t recall Lino being touted as a Finn type player… but the memory might have failed me..

If you watch NRL regularly it is clear that the 70s/80s type of organiser doesn’t really exist.. teams are coached structure and certain players are tasked with holding pivotal roles in that structure - Dummy half and other halves with full back providing width options… there’s very little ‘off the cuff or ball handling’ except in broken play.

What I have seen of Applegarths coaching is it seems to follow that technical structure, which I believe, will work very well in SL

Lino was brought up in that structure and he seems to be responding well to the new coaching set up! Personally I like the skill set in the pivot group .. Kay is beginning to revel with the new role…

And I think the pack looks really mean!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player745
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 06 20222 years115th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 04:4026th Mar 24 03:33LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Good result for Fev : Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:45 am  
vastman wrote:
But why? We have one HB and Gaskell and nobody not even Gaskell knows what his position is. There are many more 9's out there than 7's. In our Academy we have an excellent potential future 9 in Jake Camplin, I don't see the equivalent HB.

So my question stands, why would you convert Smith, make zero sense to me?


1) I don’t care where Smith plays but I do think he plays somewhere..
2) love what I’ve seen of Camplin (with a nod to his dad on here) but he strikes be as a Nige Bell type utility… plays to potential whatever role he’s given
3) with due regard to Harry B … who I really like … I think the best young dummy half prospect I’ve seen in decades has just progressed through to the academy this year .. and that’s Harvey Smith… watched him on video in many games this year and he really impressed me!
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player1957No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 17 20203 years100th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
27th Mar 24 16:4025th Mar 24 21:29LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Good result for Fev : Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:32 am  
Spookisback wrote:
1) I don’t care where Smith plays but I do think he plays somewhere..
2) love what I’ve seen of Camplin (with a nod to his dad on here) but he strikes be as a Nige Bell type utility… plays to potential whatever role he’s given
3) with due regard to Harry B … who I really like … I think the best young dummy half prospect I’ve seen in decades has just progressed through to the academy this year .. and that’s Harvey Smith… watched him on video in many games this year and he really impressed me!


Think you could have a point with regards jake the plan at moment is to start games at 9 moving to 13 in the games,but as his body size develops i do believe he is going to be more a 13, who can cover 9 when needed. wholllas for smith yes from what i see and hear in training he is very quick out of DH and and it will be a threat v tired defences
Previous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 1873, altofts wildcat, Khlav Kalash, Scarlet Pimpernell, The Phantom Horseman and 321 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55969
13m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Roam Ranger
346
19m
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Boss Hog
12
20m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
Steve0
117
35m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
34254
36m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
wrencat1873
20
56m
Rd 6 I Cas A
Rockinhorse
21
56m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Uncle Rico
11
56m
Saints a
Cherry_Warri
13
58m
TV Games - Not Hull
Steve0
1378
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
44s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
34254
50s
Halifax H
Maccbull_Big
32
1m
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
1m
The Bulls away
Brew
7
1m
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
1m
Fevround 2
Wildthing
86
1m
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Tarquin Fueg
405
2m
This weeks disciplinary
sir adrian m
1007
2m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
1933
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
Brew
7
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Boss Hog
12
TODAY
Saints a
Cherry_Warri
13
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
wrencat1873
20
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rd 6 I Cas A
Rockinhorse
21
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Uncle Rico
11
TODAY
Spare Tickets Friday
Azul
3
TODAY
RL Podcast
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
TODAY
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Final Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
475
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
588
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
524
Warrington Demolish London For..
642
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
692
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
663
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
914
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
894
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1043
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1011
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1068
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1057
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3830
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1178
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
1059
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.57M +12,517 80,00114,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
National Rugby League 2024-R4
09:00
Sydney
v
Penrith
Mens Super League XXVIII-R6
20:00
Castleford
v
Leeds
 TOMORROW
Championship 2024-R2
18:00
Featherstone
v
Wakefield
 Sun 7th Apr
Championship 2024-R3
15:00
Doncaster
v
Wakefield
 Sun 12th May 2024
1895 Cup 2024-R5
15:00
Bradford
v
Wakefield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 28th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Leeds
Fri 29th Mar
SL
12:30
Hull KR-Hull FC
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Wigan
Sat 30th Mar
SL
15:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
17:30
Salford-Leigh
Sun 31st Mar
SL
15:00
LondonB-Huddersfield
L1
15:00
Oldham-Rochdale
Thu 4th Apr
SL
20:00
Leigh-Wigan
Fri 5th Apr
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
Hull KR-LondonB
SL
20:00
Leeds-Warrington
Sat 6th Apr
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-St.Helens
Sat 13th Apr
CC2024
17:00
Hull KR-Leigh
Sun 14th Apr
CC2024
16:30
St.Helens-Warrington
Fri 19th Apr
SL
20:00
Leeds-Huddersfield
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Wigan-Castleford
Sat 20th Apr
SL
15:00
Warrington-Leigh
SL
17:30
Catalans-Hull KR
Sun 24th Mar
CC2024 6 Halifax4-40Catalans
NRL 3 Parramatta28-24Manly
NRL 3 Newcastle14-12Melbourne
L1 1 Cornwall16-40Crusaders
L1 1 Keighley58-16Workington
L1 1 Midlands70-16Newcastle
L1 1 Rochdale24-26Hunslet
WOMCC2024 2 FeatherstoneW38-6Shef W
WOMCC2024 2 BarrowW18-20WiganW
WOMCC2024 2 LonB W6-24Wire W
WOMCC2024 2 HKR Wom0-90LeedsW
WOMCC2024 2 Lei L W6-36Hudds W
Sat 23rd Mar
CC2024 6 Batley14-28Castleford
CC2024 6 Huddersfield50-6Hull FC
CC2024 6 Leigh26-14Featherstone
CC2024 6 Warrington42-0LondonB
NRL 3 Canterbury32-0Gold Coast
NRL 3 St.George24-46NQL Cowboys
NRL 3 Wests36-6Cronulla
WOMCC2024 2 Card Wom58-0Sal W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Warrington 5 156 58 98 8
Wigan 4 144 54 90 8
St.Helens 5 118 40 78 8
Catalans 5 126 54 72 8
Hull KR 5 98 63 35 6
Leeds 5 82 82 0 6
 
Salford 5 95 96 -1 6
Huddersfield 5 94 98 -4 4
Leigh 4 82 54 28 2
Hull FC 5 54 162 -108 2
Castleford 5 56 178 -122 0
LondonB 5 54 220 -166 0
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Widnes 1 44 8 36 2
Wakefield 1 42 12 30 2
Doncaster 1 36 20 16 2
Halifax 1 24 10 14 2
Featherstone 1 24 20 4 2
Sheffield 1 24 22 2 2
 
Whitehaven 1 18 16 2 2
Toulouse 1 22 24 -2 0
Swinton 1 16 18 -2 0
Batley 1 20 24 -4 0
Dewsbury 1 10 24 -14 0
York 1 20 36 -16 0
Bradford 1 12 42 -30 0
Barrow 1 8 44 -36 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55969
13m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
Roam Ranger
346
19m
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Boss Hog
12
20m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
Steve0
117
35m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
34254
36m
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
wrencat1873
20
56m
Rd 6 I Cas A
Rockinhorse
21
56m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Uncle Rico
11
56m
Saints a
Cherry_Warri
13
58m
TV Games - Not Hull
Steve0
1378
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
44s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
34254
50s
Halifax H
Maccbull_Big
32
1m
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
1m
The Bulls away
Brew
7
1m
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
1m
Fevround 2
Wildthing
86
1m
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Tarquin Fueg
405
2m
This weeks disciplinary
sir adrian m
1007
2m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
1933
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
Brew
7
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
Boss Hog
12
TODAY
Saints a
Cherry_Warri
13
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
BigTime
5
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
wrencat1873
20
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rd 6 I Cas A
Rockinhorse
21
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Uncle Rico
11
TODAY
Spare Tickets Friday
Azul
3
TODAY
RL Podcast
AgbriggAmble
1
TODAY
Challenge Cup
Captain Hook
34
TODAY
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Final Draw
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
475
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
588
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
524
Warrington Demolish London For..
642
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
692
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
663
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
914
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
894
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1043
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1011
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1068
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1057
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3830
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1178
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
1059


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!