Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:21 pm  

Not long now, I just hope we don't get gassed out like New Zealand, ( the Aussies ). ( NRL ) they tell us are used to full 80 minutes !
We will see !

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:04 pm  

OHH. DEAR,

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:34 pm  

Too many mistakes and a few players found out at international level…..

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:42 pm  

Would have preferred us to win and Welsby be brought down to earth like that though.

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:52 pm  

Too big a clique in that team Wane reaped what he showed picking his predictable pals. Terrible display well done Samoa you played a great hand

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 5:59 pm  

Sad we did not win but best team won but the at least it shut the tv pundits up who were making all kinds of excuses for them through the match Give credit to the English Coach and players who were interviewed ,they said they were second best and the best team won

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:02 pm  

Yes his old Wigan pals were found out today big style. Tomkins dosnt look the same player when he cant con our poor UK refs and milk penalties to get the upper hand.
However I thought Farnsworth and Whitehead had excellent games.

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:11 pm  

As expected England caught Samoa cold and haven’t had a truly competitive game after a woefully east run to the semi final. Fell at the first hurdle and sign of pressure. Real tin pot stuff.

Mccollurum, Tomkins, Cooper, Hill should have been nowhere near that team.

Players like Young/Radley looking great smashing second tier nations but ultimately found out.

Poor tournament from England essentially limping out after some major bluster.

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:26 pm  

We were always up against it with Tomkins and Mcilorum making up 50% of our spine, they just aren’t good enough anymore unfortunately and the Samoa side just targeted Mcilorum all game. Welsby still has a lot of maturing and developing to do before he can be deemed a quality half, but you need games like these to achieve that. I thought Whitehead was the best forward on the field, he was outstanding.

Re: Come on England. : Sat Nov 12, 2022 6:33 pm  

Pat Bateman wrote:

We were always up against it with Tomkins and Mcilorum making up 50% of our spine, they just aren’t good enough anymore unfortunately and the Samoa side just targeted Mcilorum all game. Welsby still has a lot of maturing and developing to do before he can be deemed a quality half, but you need games like these to achieve that. I thought Whitehead was the best forward on the field, he was outstanding.

Am I right in thinking Ackers was injured earlier in the tournement?

I remember hearing someone say in the second half when Mcilorum came back on that he'd now see out the remainder of the game and would be a big part of the comeback if there was to be one but for me he looked terrible, I don't think he'll ever lose that aggression but going forward he's not the answer for me.