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Re: Spending the full salary cap Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:31 pm  
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vastman wrote:
I think what may have happened here is cause and effect.

The SKY revenue has been substantially reduced. Thus the cap for 2022 onwards must be lower than it was, unless it doesn't work like that? I doubt the shortfall has been made up from elsewhere. So due to the fact that clubs like Leeds/Wigan/Warrington and Saints tend to offer long contract I suspect they have a number of players on bigger deals than they would have offered pre the new deal.

Doesn't affect us as we were never anywhere near the old cap.

However if they want to refresh or bring through young players then something has to give. I can see clubs like these putting players out on subsidised loans or just letting go.

I can see a lot of movement of what used to be called journeymen but are now called squad players, though personally I call then the players who cement teams together in an unsung way.

Applegarth will know many of these players well and should be in a good position to pick off the better ones. It will be his first big test.

The salary cap hasn’t reduced, just the the TV income. Hence the bigger clubs or those with wealthy benefactors can continue to spend the same big money whilst the rest struggle to keep up. It’s up to those clubs, of which we are one, to aim to catch them up.
Re: Spending the full salary cap Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:26 pm  
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The salary cap hasn’t reduced, just the the TV income. Hence the bigger clubs or those with wealthy benefactors can continue to spend the same big money whilst the rest struggle to keep up. It’s up to those clubs, of which we are one, to aim to catch them up.


Typical RL, the cap is supposed to be commensurate with the clubs incomes and that has clearly been reduced for all teams. I totally believe you by the way but it makes a mockery of it all, well to me anyway.
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Re: Spending the full salary cap Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:01 pm  
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vastman wrote:
Typical RL, the cap is supposed to be commensurate with the clubs incomes and that has clearly been reduced for all teams. I totally believe you by the way but it makes a mockery of it all, well to me anyway.


But clearly some can still spend to the salary cap. Why would you stop them spending their money.
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Re: Spending the full salary cap Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:35 pm  
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But clearly some can still spend to the salary cap. Why would you stop them spending their money.


But that’s the point of the cap isn’t it? It’s to stop clubs from spending more than others purely because they can and thus level the playing field a little. So if clubs are getting less from Sky but the cap stays the same doesn’t that instantly widen the gap between rich and poor. We have even less chance of competing, or am I missing something?

Without the cap clubs like Warrington could and would spend double the cap and we’d be stuffed.
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vastman wrote:
But that’s the point of the cap isn’t it? It’s to stop clubs from spending more than others purely because they can and thus level the playing field a little. So if clubs are getting less from Sky but the cap stays the same doesn’t that instantly widen the gap between rich and poor. We have even less chance of competing, or am I missing something?

Without the cap clubs like Warrington could and would spend double the cap and we’d be stuffed.


Although yes, the point of a cap is to balance the league and is there to stop a club like Warrington buying two teams worth of players,.......it shouldn't be set at the lowest clubs level. Otherwise you end up with a low quality league.
It should be set at something achievable but also a stretch. In my opinion.

Leeds and Warrington would have every right to complain we are dragging the quality down if we can't get some investment to help us plug the gap at least in park.
Especially when the likes of Leigh probably can.
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