Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:19 pm  

Not looked into this vs minutes played, but not the horrific stats some would have us believe:

Tackles - Marker Tackles - Missed (averages)

Vaughan 25.6 - 4.1 - 0.5
Kasiano 13.8 - 2.2 - 1.5
Mikaele 17.2 - 2.8 - 0.5
Cooper 19.5 - 3.5 - 1.8
Havard 32.8 - 9 - 2.8
Ellis 18.8 - 4.8 - 1

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:29 pm  

how come byrne hasn't been playing recently, he's been 18th man a few times, he always seems like your most aggressive of forwards

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 12:30 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

how come byrne hasn't been playing recently, he's been 18th man a few times, he always seems like your most aggressive of forwards

Was carrying an injury in pre-season so probably just easing him in.

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:09 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

how come byrne hasn't been playing recently, he's been 18th man a few times, he always seems like your most aggressive of forwards

because he couldnt burst through a wet paper bag

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:53 am  

Wigg'n wrote:

I already posted on another thread how our props compare to others in the league in terms of tackles, tackle efficiency and errors and penalties.

They all pale in comparison.

All-round our props do less work than others in the league - a plain fact.

Four of the pack in the top twenty tackles made
Four in the pack in the top twenty for marker tackles
Only one in the top twenty for missed tackles
Two from the pack in the top twenty for penalties (problem)
Three in the top twenty for errors made, none of them forwards. (problem)

Sort the last two out and we'll be o.k.

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Fri Mar 31, 2023 6:36 am  

Some good stats from last night. Not got them all to hand but off the top of my head, Havard ran for 156 metres and Ellis 120. He’s not a forward but Miski ran for 278 metres (inflated with that long run in the second half but still, that’s massive for us). King did another 140 odd as well.

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:33 am  

Kings a work horse, hitting 20 carries and 150m every week, saw him take 2 carries in one set at least once.

5 offloads recorded too.

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:42 am  

Sam Powell - 33m / 5 carries (2 DHR) / 26 tackles / 2 missed
Liam Byrne - 72m / 11 carries / 22 tackles / 1 missed
Willie Isa - 77m / 13 carries / 20 tackles / 1 missed
Liam Farrell - 139m / 17 carries / 33 tackles / 0 missed
Morgan Smithies - 63m / 12 carries / 24 tackles / 4 missed
Mike Cooper - 44m / 5 carries / 13 tackles / 0 missed
Kaide Ellis - 120m / 11 carries / 24 tackles / 2 missed
Ethan Havard - 156m / 21 carries / 29 tackles / 1 missed
Joe Shorrocks - 76m / 13 carries / 23 tackles / 1 missed
Brad O'Neill - 40m / 4 carries (2 DHR) / 25 tackles / 2 missed

Some really impressive numbers from Havard and Ellis down the middle. The numbers probably don't do Byrne justice either given how impressive he was in defence in that first half.

I think it's fair to say it wasn't Farrell's best game yet he makes 139 metres, 33 tackles without missing one. If that's you on an off day you're a bloody good player!

Shorrocks justified his inclusion too. Usually that 3rd middle on the bench produces poor attacking numbers and is generally ineffective but Shorrocks made plenty of carries, was energetic in defence and his work off the ball is massively underestimated.

Re: Forwards Watch 2023 : Fri Mar 31, 2023 9:23 am  

Just seen a little pod cast that said our pack made over 300m more than Leigh last night, must be hell of a long time since we've dominated a side like that, those no.s just back up what we all thought on the night about Havard, superb performance, I thought Ellis had done well also, just that he got overshadowed by Havard