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Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:30 pm  
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He literally grew up a Wigan fan :lol:

Saints would have to win this year's GF, and then the next 3, plus every Challenge Cup in the next 5 years to get anywhere close.
Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 12:44 pm  
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They aren't the best Saints side in history. Wesley won't know about that though!
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Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:00 pm  
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He literally grew up a Wigan fan :lol:

Saints would have to win this year's GF, and then the next 3, plus every Challenge Cup in the next 5 years to get anywhere close.


Or Wigan would've had to compete in a salary cap era where they weren't allowed to blow other teams out of the water with transfer fees and wages.

Saints have now faced 4 different teams in the last four finals so shows just how consistent we are to keep getting there and winning. Of course this will be disregarded and if we win tomorrow there will be some excuse given and we aren't that great etc etc. We've had playing Salford in 2019 as not a great team and then 2 Covid years accounting for 2020 and 2021 so wondering what your excuses will be if we win tomorrow?
Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:21 pm  
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Stu M wrote:
Or Wigan would've had to compete in a salary cap era where they weren't allowed to blow other teams out of the water with transfer fees and wages.

Saints have now faced 4 different teams in the last four finals so shows just how consistent we are to keep getting there and winning. Of course this will be disregarded and if we win tomorrow there will be some excuse given and we aren't that great etc etc. We've had playing Salford in 2019 as not a great team and then 2 Covid years accounting for 2020 and 2021 so wondering what your excuses will be if we win tomorrow?


We all know RL started with the advent of SL

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Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:41 pm  
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Stu M wrote:
Or Wigan would've had to compete in a salary cap era where they weren't allowed to blow other teams out of the water with transfer fees and wages.

Saints have now faced 4 different teams in the last four finals so shows just how consistent we are to keep getting there and winning. Of course this will be disregarded and if we win tomorrow there will be some excuse given and we aren't that great etc etc. We've had playing Salford in 2019 as not a great team and then 2 Covid years accounting for 2020 and 2021 so wondering what your excuses will be if we win tomorrow?


The record books speak for themselves Stu. That is why Wigan are the greatest club of all time, not hard to figure.
Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:44 pm  
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The record books speak for themselves Stu. That is why Wigan are the greatest club of all time, not hard to figure.


Ah yes, but we were the only ones with money, the only ones that spent money and were the only full time side playing against brickies, plasterers and guys out the pub.
Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:47 pm  
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Serious question then. You think both era's are comparable and both were a level playing field?
Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:57 pm  
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You think both era's are comparable


No

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both were a level playing field?


Not the fault of Wigan. EVERY club had the opportunity to do what Wigan (and Leeds) did in spending money and going full time but didnt so we can hardly be blamed for that. On a 'level' playing field, ala Superleague, Saints have been better but a lot of your supporters seems to forget about the 100 and odd years before that point

Either way, the GF is tomorrow and we arent in it so time for the off season
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Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:58 pm  
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Not the fault of Wigan. EVERY club had the opportunity to do what Wigan (and Leeds) did in spending money and going full time but didnt so we can hardly be blamed for that. On a 'level' playing field, ala Superleague, Saints have been better but a lot of your supporters seems to forget about the 100 and odd years before that point

Either way, the GF is tomorrow and we arent in it so time for the off season


And yes, we nearly went bust and sold our stadium blah blah blah
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Re: Welsby Fri Sep 23, 2022 2:08 pm  
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SL isn't a level playing field neither and won't be until every club spends up to the cap, has the same reserves/academy status etc etc.
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