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Re: Welsby : Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:03 am  
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They are not even the best Saints side in history


Not by a long way.
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:30 am  
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This just sums up how bizarre views can become when you fold in a heathy dollop of bias.

:lol: No, what’s bizarre is that the game has got itself in the position that it’s ok to bend someone’s arm behind their back to slow the game down as long as it’s in ‘it’s normal range of movement’ (hey, that’s what joints/sockets are for but let’s push it! :lol: ).

Also, what’s bizarre is that less than 48 hours from the potential of 4 grand finals in a row, you’re trawling around on a Wigan forum.
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:06 am  
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https://twitter.com/silversref/status/1572695123925913600?s=21&t=m8bOuu2srA9q6m6GTS1WgQ

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play then what the fecking hell is it?


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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:33 am  
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This just sums up how bizarre views can become when you fold in a healthy dollop of bias.


So like everything ever said about Wigan by an opposing fan then
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:09 am  
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So like everything ever said about Wigan by an opposing fan then


FWIW I completely agree with the above statement. I hate seeing the anti Wigan bias on social. Prime example is people questioning why Peet was the the coach of the year -it was an obvious choice.

That being said, people are absolutely frothing at this and you have to admit that 90% of the anger is because he plays for Saints. The usual suspects, who seem to lose all rationale when it comes to Saints, are out in force.
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:16 am  
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FWIW I completely agree with the above statement. I hate seeing the anti Wigan bias on social. Prime example is people questioning why Peet was the the coach of the year -it was an obvious choice.

That being said, people are absolutely frothing at this and you have to admit that 90% of the anger is because he plays for Saints. The usual suspects, who seem to lose all rationale when it comes to Saints, are out in force.


I hate St Helens with every fibre of my being. This would still be a terrible decision if it was John Bateman or Liam Farrell. Firstly because it was a poor tackle and second because of the can of worms it now opens.

I said last week that Martin couldn't be allowed to get off from his ban (which was a joke decision in the first place) because of the ramifications for the sport and I stand by that this week. Expect there to be appeals and then 2nd appeals galore next season with experts turning up and lawyers looking at every single word used in the minutes for any form of contradiction/error. Not to mention players just pointing to this whenever they get banned for a chicken wing tackle that doesn't actually injure the player.
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:18 am  
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FWIW I completely agree with the above statement. I hate seeing the anti Wigan bias on social. Prime example is people questioning why Peet was the the coach of the year -it was an obvious choice.

That being said, people are absolutely frothing at this and you have to admit that 90% of the anger is because he plays for Saints. The usual suspects, who seem to lose all rationale when it comes to Saints, are out in force.



Maybe from Wiganers it’s partly because it’s Saints but across the game I feel Saints have a very good reputation and that hasn’t stopped people from all angles piling in. I’ve seen numerous players and officials from various Superleague and Championship clubs calling the decision a disgrace. It isn’t because it’s St Helens, it’s because it’s a disgrace. Saints fans themselves know that. They, like we all would, will take it but if they’re honest they know it’s a ban every single day of the week and they would be appalled if it was flipped and an opposition teams player got off.

Knowles only got 2 games because they want him available for the World Cup. Unfortunately to only give him two games, they needed to make out the act wasn’t hugely dangerous and it’s left them wide open to having to turn it over completely. It’s the biggest shambles I can ever recall in terms of a disciplinary outcome but the fact it’s come in 2022 feels inevitable.
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:19 am  
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I hate St Helens with every fibre of my being.


You hide it well.
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:22 am  
Or look at it another way.

Wigan beat Leeds, Bateman is banned for 3 games.

Wigan appeal and he is still banned for 3 games BUT the minutes say something like, it was a bad tackle with no regard for player safety but the game is fast paced and players sometimes end up making tackles they didn't intend to make.

Wigan appeal again and he gets off because the wording says he didn't intend to do it meaning it was an accident rather than a bad tackle with no regard for player safety.

Would that be ok?
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Re: Wigan v Sts discussion : Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:23 am  
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You hide it well.


I won't hide behind "I'm here for honest and open discussion with opposing fans" like your lot do you're right.
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