Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:23 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

It shouldn't be Ratchford for the sole reason that the captain should at least be a guaranteed name in the starting 13.
I'd agree with McGuire.

Hughes?

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:27 pm  

Indeed - he shouldn't have been made captain either

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:04 pm  

My biggest concern with McGuire is his actual ability to perform, because I watched the Dragons a fair few times this season and he just looked clueless. I don't want to confuse aggression with passion, since his aggression is going to cost us penalties. He looked slow, passes were off, carries were uneventful and tackles were questionable. I don't think I really want that as captain, or even starting. I'm excited about the leadership potential, but not much else. In all honesty, what Billy Magoulias did at the WC was better than anything I saw from McGuire this season.

I see no reason why Williams shouldn't be captain. Especially after his performances at the end of last season, and his WC performances.

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:16 pm  

Never thought it was a good idea to appoint a Captain who hasn't played a game for us yet.
Lovely to hear Maguire's positive vibe but don't get carried away. Don't think it is important really but Williams for me at the moment ... one of the stars of World Cup, Captain of England & worked his knackers off last year. What is not to like? He is not a natural talker but I reckon we have a few of them. He will call most of the big plays anyway.

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:40 pm  

KineticRR wrote:

My biggest concern with McGuire is his actual ability to perform, because I watched the Dragons a fair few times this season and he just looked clueless. I don't want to confuse aggression with passion, since his aggression is going to cost us penalties. He looked slow, passes were off, carries were uneventful and tackles were questionable. I don't think I really want that as captain, or even starting. I'm excited about the leadership potential, but not much else. In all honesty, what Billy Magoulias did at the WC was better than anything I saw from McGuire this season.

I see no reason why Williams shouldn't be captain. Especially after his performances at the end of last season, and his WC performances.

Lack of ability or fatigue?

As one of the grafters, a smart coach would spell him sensibly.

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:52 pm  

rubber duckie wrote:

Lack of ability or fatigue?

As one of the grafters, a smart coach would spell him sensibly.

Williams is class, but being a class halfback doesn’t mean to say you can radiate an ora about the place that can magnetise respect from everyone.

Mike Gregory and Adrian Morley, Les Boyd to a lesser extent, had that about them, there’s been few if any in my lifetime, too young to understand if Alex had that about him, even though I remember him playing, although he was famous for he rants as a coach after us.

I don’t think Williams has what it takes, McGuire looks to be making the right noises, and the noises I would say are that of someone who already knows he is captain…regardless that I’ve already been told he is captain, or at least sharing that role.

Personally, my guess, he will share captaincy, otherwise it will mean Ratchford from that role he already shared. DP doesn’t seem to be that kind of guy.

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:19 pm  

Murphy is the only player that I have seen, where the whole of the Rugby League World had to change the rules TWICE, because he manipulated them to his teams advantage.

He was that good......... and he could certainly motivate and lead men.

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:57 am  

What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/

What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:26 am  

KineticRR wrote:

My biggest concern with McGuire is his actual ability to perform, because I watched the Dragons a fair few times this season and he just looked clueless. I don't want to confuse aggression with passion, since his aggression is going to cost us penalties. He looked slow, passes were off, carries were uneventful and tackles were questionable. I don't think I really want that as captain, or even starting. I'm excited about the leadership potential, but not much else. In all honesty, what Billy Magoulias did at the WC was better than anything I saw from McGuire this season.

I see no reason why Williams shouldn't be captain. Especially after his performances at the end of last season, and his WC performances.

James Tedesco would look ordinary in that St George team.

Re: Squad complete. What’s your starting 13 + 4 : Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:01 pm  

[code][/code] Alffi_7 wrote: What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/ Yeah not the best, clearly written by a half assed journo.

[code][/code] Alffi_7 wrote: What an all-round terrible article. Two of the players we couldn't get because we have no quota spots, if we gave more money to George Williams, we wouldn't need cap space anyway - as he is marquee, and Gigot & Le Cam? Give me a break. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/five-pla ... ney-63445/ Yeah not the best, clearly written by a half assed journo.