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Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:10 am  
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The Speculator wrote:
Interesting. I would be happy with that.


I would too, nothing flashy, controlling half with a good kicking game (at least I seem to remember a good short kicking game, not sure on long kicking game...?)
Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:11 am  
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CW8 wrote:
Didn't he play 100 games for us? He was given a chance for me. Then he was released and went to the championship which sort of says it all really. I like him, I want him to succeed but he wasn't the answer for us and still isn't.


Probably started 75-80, over a 5/6 year period. From memory, I’d guess at least 50 of them came in 2 seasons, 2017 and 2019. Both of those times he was the back up, not the real plan.

I’m not saying he was the answer, but we have had kids come through with academy pedigree only to stutter and fail when getting into the first team, only to be knocked and held back. Patton, O’Brien, Morgan Smith all the way back to Jamie Durbin.

At some point, if we want to fix the problem, we need to play the long game. Riley Dean is already being written off by some, potentially including the coach. How long before it’s Hayes?

These kids might not be the answer to 20/25 years of failed junior halfbacks, but Josh Drinkwater definitely isn’t. At least in time these kids “might” be.
Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:16 am  
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CW8 wrote:
Didn't he play 100 games for us? He was given a chance for me. Then he was released and went to the championship which sort of says it all really. I like him, I want him to succeed but he wasn't the answer for us and still isn't.


Exactly 108 games over 7 seasons. He was given many, many opportunities. He's now at Bradford, a mid to lower level Championship side.

I really don't think he was a diamond in the rough given insufficient chances.
Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:23 am  
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Longbarn Wire wrote:
Im hearing Josh Drinkwater could be on his way....



Thats interesting, I would have had him in 2019 after he left Catalans.

Think macnamara was leaving him out towards the back end of this year, pretty sure he dropped him for their play off exit
Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:44 am  
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Wires71 wrote:
Exactly 108 games over 7 seasons. He was given many, many opportunities. He's now at Bradford, a mid to lower level Championship side.

I really don't think he was a diamond in the rough given insufficient chances.


Think my example might be a poor one, I was speaking about Patton as I said that he is comparable to Richardson, neither of which I would want in the team.

My message was that going to has been’s is part of the disease, not the cure of the half back problem.

I’ve said previously that Dean, with Ratchford as the mentor, would be the plan if we could afford to gamble a slower start this year. But, in self preservation we will bring in a half back.
Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:58 pm  
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If the pack turns out to be as good as we think it will be, Williams will no doubt run much of the show near the line. However, if we want the youth to be brought through to sort us out for the future - instead of another journeyman half-back - then we’ve got to accept the issues that come with it. Powell has good form for turning potential into reality with young players, but the pressure of delivering a final appearance or trophy straight away means that he’s under pressure to sign the likes of Drinkwater, which won’t help us long-term.

As difficult as it is after the last decade, I’d rather next year be a learning period with the likes of Hayes and Dean, even if it means a 5th-7th placed finish. This probably will enable us to emulate Wigan, Leeds and Saints in the future. Buying ourselves into trophies hasn’t really worked. I don’t count challenge cups as a measure of the playing strength of the club (although I am out course happy to have won them all).

I really like the look of Hayes for the future. We’ve been crying out for a little general to guide us around the park.
Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:33 pm  
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Didn't realise that! Bet he's thrilled they've just signed Jacob Miller!!


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Re: Half Back problem. Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:48 pm  
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Longbarn Wire wrote:
Im hearing Josh Drinkwater could be on his way....

We'll see, i think he'd be ok but i don't really notice him on the field much when Catalans play anymore. Just seems to be a squad filler and helps links plays but that's all i've seen. BUT Maloney and pierce are very dominant controlling halves so i suppose that would take the emphasis of him having to be a controlling half. We've seen him do it previously so we know he can. I would like a half wrapped up soon though as the season re-starts in just over 4 months,, so would like the halves to be ready for pre-season (williams with extra time off of course) But i'd like our general to have as much time with the team as possible.
Re: Half Back problem. Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:57 am  
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The info last night, from the Parr Hall event, is ‘no name’, because a deal is not yet complete (for a half back) but is at an advanced stage.
An Aussie who is already in the country.
As mentioned many times this week, we are heavily linked to Drinkwater but he is still under contract until 2023 and is he in the UK?
I hope it’s Brody Croft, but sadly there’s been no noises about him.
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Re: Half Back problem. Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:12 am  
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rubber duckie wrote:
The info I have is ‘no name’, a deal isn’t yet complete for a half back (but one is at an advanced stage) it’s an Aussie who is already in the country.
As mentioned many times this week, we are heavily linked to Drinkwater but he is still under contract until 2023 and is he in the UK?
I hope it’s Brody Croft, but sadly there’s been no noises about him.

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