Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:38 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Whilst I was surprised they overturned it on a second appeal, the decision is clearly correct. Take the club element out of it and look objectively at the position the arm was put into. It wouldn't have hurt Atkin and there was no force involved. It's definitely a penalty and I agree with the yellow card as it stopped a quick play the ball near the line, but missing the Grand Final for that would be wrong. Saints were also able to demonstrate very similar if not worse incidents from this season that were also not banned.

It's also not the first time a player has been cleared to play in a Grand Final after being banned. Lee Smith for Leeds was cleared to play on appeal after being given a 4 game ban for kicking a player in the head. That maybe puts Knowles' (stupid but not dangerous) act into perspective?

I don't think any player has ever been banned from a Grand Final in Super League (I could be wrong).

So it's the correct decision..what a load of guff..so the disciplinary panel got it wrong on there original decision and again on the 1st appeal but miraculously got it right on the 2nd appeal..ah well I suppose it's to be expected from saints they can't accept owt that goes against em

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:02 am  

Only in St Helens https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/62989843

Only in St Helens https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/62989843

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:01 pm  

have we all read the report now? the rfl are at fault here on this

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:13 pm  

There’s a precedent been set now by the RFL that chicken wing tackles are OK. Interesting.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:04 pm  

As if there weren’t enough reasons to dislike the St Helens club. Jeez…..unbelievable Jeff.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:20 pm  

Someone made a comparison on another site that basically said that if you drive down the wrong way on a motorway and the cars coming towards you swerved to get out of the way.
Then whilst there`s intent you didn`t seriously injure anyone so you shouldn`t get a fine.
Knowles had intent but the player wasn`t badly injured so he got off.

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:51 pm  

You cant prove he had intent though. His intent was clearly to stop him putting his arm down to play the ball, not hurt him. He applied next to no force he was just holding the arm whilst he ran to marker

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:17 pm  

The Reaper wrote:

You cant prove he had intent though. His intent was clearly to stop him putting his arm down to play the ball, not hurt him. He applied next to no force he was just holding the arm whilst he ran to marker

The guy being tackled is Lomax, the defender holding his head in is Powell, the defender holding his arm up is Smithies, how many matches would they be screaming for on RedVee ?

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:57 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

The guy being tackled is Lomax, the defender holding his head in is Powell, the defender holding his arm up is Smithies, how many matches would they be screaming for on RedVee ?

Are you seriously trying to say Roby was at fault in this tackle as well? He was completing the tackle ffs

I'm never screaming for anybody to be suspended really. Think the only time I've ever really thought someone should get a long ban was Ben Flower because I thought he'd be lucky to avoid legal action.

Let the refs on the field deal with it, handle it like football when it comes to suspensions. Current system is a farce. Keep the players on the pitch

Re: TV games (not Wire) : Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:49 pm  

You're officially the second worst club in Super League. I'd suggest you have more pressing concerns than who is or isn't available to play for St Helens come Saturday.