RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
23 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - IMG | Recommendations for RL
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:51 am  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:51 am  
The Ghost of '99 Member for 17 years
Bronze RLFANS Member
User avatar


Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:45 pm
Posts: 3047
Two leagues of 10 would involve horrendous amounts of loop fixtures though, unless there were some creative cross-division games but they would likely be lopsided. Even if nominally SL the lower league will have less funding so you'd also be sending two SL clubs down, with all the financial and squad retention implications of that.

FWIW I think IMG have focussed on entirely the wrong area, or at least media reporting of it has focussed on the wrong area. Whilst yo/yo clubs are clearly a bit of an issue the structure of the game simply isn't the main problem we face. How the sport and its players are promoted, how local communities are re-engaged with Rugby League, how confidence in and of the sport is rebuilt after quite a long malaise etc. These are the areas of real importance. We've been through enough structure changes over many years that show that they are never the positive revolution they are sold as. In fact constantly changing is one of the problems that has led to where we are: it has given off the impression of a sport adrift, unsure of what to do, unstable and potentially contrived.

A 12 team top flight is perfectly fine, one up one down likewise. The people in charge have historically reached for changes in structure as a lever to pull precisely because it's the easiest route to follow. Sadly it looks initially like IMG are going down the same route, hoping that ill-thought out changes in league structure or top flight criteria will be the golden shot instead of actually focussing on the important but more difficult things. I suspect more of the latter is happening in the background but going in big with this proto-licencing doesn't fill me with much confidence.
"Brian McDermott, with a wry smile, nods when asked if he remembers a specific incident which made him realise he was a prick. 'I do', he murmurs."
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:30 pm  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:30 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:
FlexWheeler Member for 10 years
Bronze RLFANS Member



Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:01 pm
Posts: 4020
The Ghost of '99 wrote:
Two leagues of 10 would involve horrendous amounts of loop fixtures though, unless there were some creative cross-division games but they would likely be lopsided. Even if nominally SL the lower league will have less funding so you'd also be sending two SL clubs down, with all the financial and squad retention implications of that.

FWIW I think IMG have focussed on entirely the wrong area, or at least media reporting of it has focussed on the wrong area. Whilst yo/yo clubs are clearly a bit of an issue the structure of the game simply isn't the main problem we face. How the sport and its players are promoted, how local communities are re-engaged with Rugby League, how confidence in and of the sport is rebuilt after quite a long malaise etc. These are the areas of real importance. We've been through enough structure changes over many years that show that they are never the positive revolution they are sold as. In fact constantly changing is one of the problems that has led to where we are: it has given off the impression of a sport adrift, unsure of what to do, unstable and potentially contrived.

A 12 team top flight is perfectly fine, one up one down likewise. The people in charge have historically reached for changes in structure as a lever to pull precisely because it's the easiest route to follow. Sadly it looks initially like IMG are going down the same route, hoping that ill-thought out changes in league structure or top flight criteria will be the golden shot instead of actually focussing on the important but more difficult things. I suspect more of the latter is happening in the background but going in big with this proto-licencing doesn't fill me with much confidence.


This.

It’s always surface level stuff, and it eats away at the integrity of the sport.
实事求是!
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:16 pm  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:16 pm  

Cokey wrote:
Cokey Member for 11 years
Gold RLFANS Member
User avatar


Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:58 pm
Posts: 17508
Location: Across The Universe....... Jai guru deva om - Nothings gonna change my world.
The Ghost of '99 wrote:
Two leagues of 10 would involve horrendous amounts of loop fixtures though, unless there were some creative cross-division games but they would likely be lopsided. Even if nominally SL the lower league will have less funding so you'd also be sending two SL clubs down, with all the financial and squad retention implications of that.

FWIW I think IMG have focussed on entirely the wrong area, or at least media reporting of it has focussed on the wrong area. Whilst yo/yo clubs are clearly a bit of an issue the structure of the game simply isn't the main problem we face. How the sport and its players are promoted, how local communities are re-engaged with Rugby League, how confidence in and of the sport is rebuilt after quite a long malaise etc. These are the areas of real importance. We've been through enough structure changes over many years that show that they are never the positive revolution they are sold as. In fact constantly changing is one of the problems that has led to where we are: it has given off the impression of a sport adrift, unsure of what to do, unstable and potentially contrived.

A 12 team top flight is perfectly fine, one up one down likewise. The people in charge have historically reached for changes in structure as a lever to pull precisely because it's the easiest route to follow. Sadly it looks initially like IMG are going down the same route, hoping that ill-thought out changes in league structure or top flight criteria will be the golden shot instead of actually focussing on the important but more difficult things. I suspect more of the latter is happening in the background but going in big with this proto-licencing doesn't fill me with much confidence.


Agreed. You're right that they have focused on the structure rather than the product. If they continue to do what they currently believe in, I really think it won't end well.
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:27 am  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:27 am  

Clearwing wrote:
Clearwing Member for 17 years
Silver RLFANS Member
User avatar


Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:11 am
Posts: 8656
In fairness, if they are going to do a total rebrand then they are going to have to do some things differently. But as is so often the case, any changes are hardly going to be radical if they're to get the backing of the clubs. But the club's might be in for a nasty wake up. IMG will take their slice regardless of whether the game's income is transformed. More changes to come yet, I feel, regardless of what gets voted in initially.
"Look, I'd never use injuries as an excuse..." Daryl Powell
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:38 am  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:38 am  

Bang wrote:
Bang Member for 16 years
Silver RLFANS Member


Joined: Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:04 pm
Posts: 9803
Location: LDZ
I MG clearly trying to change the perception of the game, its look, its brand, its style. A good starting point.

Rugby League, or its leaders, don't feel the game is worth anything. There's no razzmatazz. There's no hype. No build up. People in power just don't think the game is worth it.

IMG will hopefully change that. Create drama, create hype, in the age of social media clubs, players, coaches, journalists should all be trying to make a big deal out of anything they can. This week's narrative, today's news, tomorrow's chip wrap.
YEAH LIKE WHATEVER!
TEAM UP! TEAM UP!
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:38 am  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:38 am  

Trebor1 wrote:
Trebor1 Member for 6 years
Bronze RLFANS Member


Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:16 am
Posts: 4242
Bang wrote:
I MG clearly trying to change the perception of the game, its look, its brand, its style. A good starting point.

Rugby League, or its leaders, don't feel the game is worth anything. There's no razzmatazz. There's no hype. No build up. People in power just don't think the game is worth it.

IMG will hopefully change that. Create drama, create hype, in the age of social media clubs, players, coaches, journalists should all be trying to make a big deal out of anything they can. This week's narrative, today's news, tomorrow's chip wrap.


Good post. agreed.
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:42 am  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:42 am  

Trebor1 wrote:
Trebor1 Member for 6 years
Bronze RLFANS Member


Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:16 am
Posts: 4242
The Ghost of '99 wrote:
Two leagues of 10 would involve horrendous amounts of loop fixtures though, unless there were some creative cross-division games but they would likely be lopsided. Even if nominally SL the lower league will have less funding so you'd also be sending two SL clubs down, with all the financial and squad retention implications of that.

FWIW I think IMG have focussed on entirely the wrong area, or at least media reporting of it has focussed on the wrong area. Whilst yo/yo clubs are clearly a bit of an issue the structure of the game simply isn't the main problem we face. How the sport and its players are promoted, how local communities are re-engaged with Rugby League, how confidence in and of the sport is rebuilt after quite a long malaise etc. These are the areas of real importance. We've been through enough structure changes over many years that show that they are never the positive revolution they are sold as. In fact constantly changing is one of the problems that has led to where we are: it has given off the impression of a sport adrift, unsure of what to do, unstable and potentially contrived.

A 12 team top flight is perfectly fine, one up one down likewise. The people in charge have historically reached for changes in structure as a lever to pull precisely because it's the easiest route to follow. Sadly it looks initially like IMG are going down the same route, hoping that ill-thought out changes in league structure or top flight criteria will be the golden shot instead of actually focussing on the important but more difficult things. I suspect more of the latter is happening in the background but going in big with this proto-licencing doesn't fill me with much confidence.


Agree with that. I'd love them to look at the TV deals, the TV exposure, promotion of the game, build up, press coverage, sponsors etc etc.. that is just as important if not more so that licensing. It could be a bit of chicken and egg though ? Get the game on the field in a better shape and perhaps the TV and press improves as does the sponsorship ?
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:10 pm  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Wed Oct 05, 2022 12:10 pm  

finglas wrote:
finglas Member for 21 years
User avatar


Joined: Mon Mar 04, 2002 8:06 am
Posts: 4382
Location: Dublin's fair city
Trebor1 wrote:
Agree with that. I'd love them to look at the TV deals, the TV exposure, promotion of the game, build up, press coverage, sponsors etc etc.. that is just as important if not more so that licensing. It could be a bit of chicken and egg though ? Get the game on the field in a better shape and perhaps the TV and press improves as does the sponsorship ?

It depends on when the current deal runs to. Not as important at the moment if there's 2/3 years left on the deal
Hail Stewie Griffin wrote:
All dumbies those Irish folk

So you've met my wife
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:31 pm  
Re: IMG Recommendations for British RL
Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:31 pm  

Jack Burton wrote:
Jack Burton Member for 2 years
Free-scoring winger


Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:26 am
Posts: 1594
The proposals have been agreed by all but 5 clubs, and will be introduced from the start of 2024.
Re: IMG | Recommendations for RL Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:51 pm  
Re: IMG | Recommendations for RL
Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:51 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:
ArthurClues Member for 3 years
Free-scoring winger


Joined: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:10 pm
Posts: 1288
IMG must be thrilled to hear Sam Tomkins say Owen Farrell would have been the best player in SL for each of the last 10 years. Way to promote the sport, Sam!
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ArthurClues, Betsy Bulls, Clearwing, Danibo160, ducknumber1, Jrrhino, Prop-per Rhino's Fan, Seth, tad rhino, Tex Rerp and 170 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Leeds Rhinos


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Langi
Trojan Horse
23
6m
Squad complete Whats your starting 13 4
KineticRR
51
7m
Channel 4
Alffi_7
4
9m
Squad and Team 2023
mwindass
22
12m
Shopping List 2023
mwindass
3384
40m
NEW DEAL Cameron Smith - Expires 2026
Seth
13
47m
Confirmed 2023 squad
atomic
126
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7s
Shares for sale in Trinity
Trinity info
65
12s
Game - Song Titles 20212
Boss Hog
17936
19s
The ONLY LUFC Football Thread
tad rhino
4342
22s
Langi
Trojan Horse
23
25s
NEW DEAL Cameron Smith - Expires 2026
Seth
13
30s
Shopping List 2023
mwindass
3384
47s
Wardle and King
Rogues Galle
10
53s
Friendlies
Pumpetypump
3
1m
Contibutors
PopTart
4
1m
What is Britains greatest ever sitcom
wigginswarri
10
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Langi
Trojan Horse
23
TODAY
Football World Cup
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Oh no not again
gardener
1
TODAY
Contibutors
PopTart
4
TODAY
Read this in League Express
glee
1
TODAY
Jotform
Dunkirk Spir
2
TODAY
Introducing myself
Trinity info
4
TODAY
Friendlies
Pumpetypump
3
TODAY
Channel 4
Alffi_7
4
TODAY
Blake and Nene left whos incoming
Lower Crease
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Australia World Champions Agai..
5989
Jillaroos Demolish the Ferns t..
1912
England Beat France in Nail-bi..
2857
New Zealand Ferns Final Bound ..
1734
Australia Power Into Womens Fi..
1849
Samoa Into the Final As Englis..
1922
Australia Squeeze Into The Fin..
4646
Jilleroos Scrape Home Against ..
2167
Cook Islands Sign Off With Vic..
2752
England 19-man squad for RLWC ..
2655
St Helens to face Penrith Pant..
2596
England Top Group A With Big W..
2310
Canada End World Cup With Tigh..
2111
Record Breaking Masterclass fr..
3332
Ferns Win As Cooks Score First..
2635
POSTSONLINEMEMBERSRECORD
19.4Million 1,785 ↓-4279,3159,323
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 16th Feb 2023
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R1
20:00
Warrington
v
Leeds
 Fri 24th Feb 2023
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R2
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
 Fri 3rd Mar 2023
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R3
20:00
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Fri 10th Mar 2023
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R4
20:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 16th Feb
SL-M
20:00
Warrington-Leeds
Fri 17th Feb
SL-M
20:00
Leigh-Salford
Sat 18th Feb
SL-M
13:00
Hull KR-Wigan
WCC2023
07:00
Penrith-St.Helens
Thu 23rd Feb
SL-M
20:00
Salford-Hull KR
Fri 24th Feb
SL-M
20:00
Leeds-Hull FC
Sun 26th Feb
SL-M
13:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Thu 2nd Mar
SL-M
20:00
Warrington-Salford
Fri 3rd Mar
SL-M
20:00
St.Helens-Leeds
Thu 9th Mar
SL-M
20:00
Wigan-Catalans
Fri 10th Mar
SL-M
20:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Langi
Trojan Horse
23
6m
Squad complete Whats your starting 13 4
KineticRR
51
7m
Channel 4
Alffi_7
4
9m
Squad and Team 2023
mwindass
22
12m
Shopping List 2023
mwindass
3384
40m
NEW DEAL Cameron Smith - Expires 2026
Seth
13
47m
Confirmed 2023 squad
atomic
126
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
7s
Shares for sale in Trinity
Trinity info
65
12s
Game - Song Titles 20212
Boss Hog
17936
19s
The ONLY LUFC Football Thread
tad rhino
4342
22s
Langi
Trojan Horse
23
25s
NEW DEAL Cameron Smith - Expires 2026
Seth
13
30s
Shopping List 2023
mwindass
3384
47s
Wardle and King
Rogues Galle
10
53s
Friendlies
Pumpetypump
3
1m
Contibutors
PopTart
4
1m
What is Britains greatest ever sitcom
wigginswarri
10
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Langi
Trojan Horse
23
TODAY
Football World Cup
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Oh no not again
gardener
1
TODAY
Contibutors
PopTart
4
TODAY
Read this in League Express
glee
1
TODAY
Jotform
Dunkirk Spir
2
TODAY
Introducing myself
Trinity info
4
TODAY
Friendlies
Pumpetypump
3
TODAY
Channel 4
Alffi_7
4
TODAY
Blake and Nene left whos incoming
Lower Crease
7
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Australia World Champions Agai..
5989
Jillaroos Demolish the Ferns t..
1912
England Beat France in Nail-bi..
2857
New Zealand Ferns Final Bound ..
1734
Australia Power Into Womens Fi..
1849
Samoa Into the Final As Englis..
1922
Australia Squeeze Into The Fin..
4646
Jilleroos Scrape Home Against ..
2167
Cook Islands Sign Off With Vic..
2752
England 19-man squad for RLWC ..
2655
St Helens to face Penrith Pant..
2596
England Top Group A With Big W..
2310
Canada End World Cup With Tigh..
2111
Record Breaking Masterclass fr..
3332
Ferns Win As Cooks Score First..
2635


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!