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Re: Brexit disaster : Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:11 pm  
wotsupcas wrote:
Yes really. IMO it was the Maastricht treaty that was the catalyst for the leave movement.


It does have to be said how well its going.

The UK has gone from top to bottom of the table for G7 nations and immigration is up, despite "taking back control" of our borders.
If it wasnt so serious, it would be hilarious but, in the words of Mr Farage "you're not laughing now".
Meanwhile, some of those on the right of politics and their hedge fund friends have made a bloody fortune out of the country sinking.
Quite ironic, given that many of them pretend to be so patriotic.

Liz Truss talked about "the anti-growth coalition" but, Brexit is one of the main reasons for the huge drop off in exports.
Now, where are those new markets ??
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Re: Brexit disaster : Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:18 pm  
Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza wrote:
wotsupcas wrote:
Oops. If it was JUST the common market we'd still be in it.
Doubtful. If that was the case we would have made attempts to join EFTA or tried to negotiate a deal similar that Switzerland have. Which isn't as good as being in the common market as we would still have to produce customs paperwork but does deliver some of the benefits.
The problem is that Quitters don't want to live in the world as it is instead of the world as they wish it was (I'd say the world they wish they could recreate but it's all a sad, nostalgia-fumed illusion). They think it's as simple as having a free trade zone but with none of the regulatory alignment which makes such a thing work. It's so sadly delusional.
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Re: Brexit disaster : Fri Nov 25, 2022 7:40 am  
The Ghost of '99 wrote:
The problem is that Quitters don't want to live in the world as it is instead of the world as they wish it was (I'd say the world they wish they could recreate but it's all a sad, nostalgia-fumed illusion). They think it's as simple as having a free trade zone but with none of the regulatory alignment which makes such a thing work. It's so sadly delusional.



It’s pretty pathetic especially when you consider that on a lot of things (especially things like animal welfare in farming and safety standards) our own standards are higher than the EU minimum. We were the ones driving EU regulation and pushing for improvements.
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