Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:33 pm  

Seth wrote:

I can really empathise with addiction and mental health conditions, it's hell to live with. Where I draw the line is multiple drink driving and dangerous driving convictions where the lives of others can easily be put at risk, for that I have no empathy.

Totally agree Seth. Well said

Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:34 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:

And that's OK as far as it goes, but one day there will be somebody in front of that speeding car. Will he be a decent bloke then? He needs to take ownership of this stupid and deeply selfish behaviour before it ruins somebody else's life and not just is own. I'm so glad we are rid of him, especially considering the amount of young and talented players now at the club. Wouldn't want them to think this kind of behaviour is anything like OK.

And thats where I'm at with this, while hes putting others in danger i couldnt care less how much of a nice lad he is.

Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:37 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:

And that's OK as far as it goes, but one day there will be somebody in front of that speeding car. Will he be a decent bloke then? He needs to take ownership of this stupid and deeply selfish behaviour before it ruins somebody else's life and not just is own. I'm so glad we are rid of him, especially considering the amount of young and talented players now at the club. Wouldn't want them to think this kind of behaviour is anything like OK.

Absolutely nail on the head. I think without question if he was still here and had done that the club would have most definitely suspended him. The lad clearly needs support for his issues, but, he has to take ownership of something like this serious offence, it's absolutely not acceptable. He could have killed someone.

Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:59 pm  

Zak has had loads of support throughout, but no amount of help will stop someone who is fundamentally unable to find change for themselves.

It is a head scratcher because for talent he really has it. Maybe he could have done even more if his addictions hadn’t got the better who knows.

Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:50 pm  

Seth wrote:

And thats where I'm at with this, while hes putting others in danger i couldnt care less how much of a nice lad he is.

Thing is, he isn't even a nice lad. We're only aware of the things he's been caught doing, imagine how many times he's done stuff like this.

88mph is absolutely disgraceful.

Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:51 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Zak has had loads of support throughout, but no amount of help will stop someone who is fundamentally unable to find change for themselves.

It is a head scratcher because for talent he really has it. Maybe he could have done even more if his addictions hadn’t got the better who knows.

I don't think he has any addictions, just a lack of discipline and a lack of respect for himself and others around him.

He will probs turn into an alcoholic and become a very bitter person after he finishes playing. Absolutely wasted talent.

Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:44 pm  

Seth wrote:

Apparently he 'miscalculated his drinks that night'. Counting beyond 1 can be challenging for some, give him a break.

I like the line trotted out by his brief: "his position as a role model has been destroyed".

Re: Zak Hardaker : Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:28 pm  

And yet again what sort of headline does RL get on the verge of a new season…a negative one.

All the talent, little to none of the discipline or stuff between the ears.

Used to feel sympathy but there’s a bit of the boy who cried wolf here. Too many times and too many chances.

Will only echo what others have said, one day it won’t be his own life he ruins.

Re: Zak Hardaker : Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:02 am  

christopher wrote:

They’ve made a statement saying they are ‘supporting’ him

Probably still drunk if he needs supportimg

Re: Zak Hardaker : Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:05 am  

Also, as someone has lost family members to a hit n run drunk driver I have 0 sympathy for him.

Hardly out of character for him, who was suprised?